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    match increase amendment (non s/h plan)

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Plan will be increasing match but i wasn't sure if there is a 30 day notice requirement for the SMM.


    Employer changing pay roll company and 401K plan company

    Kevin T
    By Kevin T,

    Hello,

    This is Not my first issue with my company but only asking about the newest screw up they did. So, my employer changes pay roll companies almost every other year, same with medical benefits and 401k plan companies. Thank God I am 64 years old and won't have to deal with much longer. I have been with them this Feb 7th 47 years this week. Here is my problem. 401k company 2023 I had a loan for around $24,000 and then after last paycheck in 2024 employer moved to new company. So have had an issue kind of like mine but mine is worse. You see my money from 2023 401k was moved finally. But my loan wasn't moved. So now I have spent hours on the phone with both 401k 2023 and 2025. Since I am in black out on 401k plan now I can Not view anything. I can now view my 401k plan 2025 and it shows no loan what so ever, I have called 401k 2025 and they say they see nothing about a loan. Before I go on my direct boss also has a loan same 401k company and all of his 401k money and loan balance was moved. I know what your saying contact your direct HR person and ask. I called her, emailed her 3 times and finally after sending a read receipt she replies Hang Tight Kevin. I have been alone all week, other person out of office. Will let me know soon.   well today is last day of black out. O yes and for the last 3 pay periods it says on my check that $220.12 was removed to pay my loan. So now this is 3 pay periods. So just over $660 of my hard earned money was removed from my check and no one knows where it is. Besides that I get paid again this Friday and I am sure the $220 will be removed again. Lucky for me and since I have been dealing with stupid people with I have learned to take notes and names and emails.  It is not the fact this Friday  my wages are missing $880 it is the fact that 401k company 2025 has said I could be found in default. A 20% penalty, Well, not this time HR. I might be leaving earlier than I thought, Any ideas on how I can get some help? I have all phone calls and emails and notes for this problem. I am so glad that the stupidness didn't start until about 19 years ago.

     

    thank you

    Kevin T


    Hardship Dist... taxes

    Basically
    By Basically,

    I have a participant who has a legit hardship.  His wife has become disabled.  The medical and credit card bills are getting out of hand because his state is dragging their feet with any state benefits.  Simple question... just want to be sure... it's just like any other distribution, correct?  Taxes need to be withheld (20%).   The 1099-R will be coded properly and if there is no exception he will pay the excise tax when he does his personal taxes.  

    Am I correct?  Missing anything? 

    Thanks


    Is this an ASG?

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    Joe owns XYZ Real Estate 100% (corporation) and has a DB/DC plan - no employees. He gets a w-2.

    Joe forms another entity with Moe (no relationship to Joe) 50/50 ownership, ABC Real Estate. The income is thru commissions. This is an LLC taxed as partnership.

    Neither partner gets a k-1 showing any earned income. 

    Joe's commissions earnings from ABC RE, LLC are paid to his company XYZ RE and this income is the major source of income XYZ RE.

    No CG issues, how about ASG?

    Thanks


    Controlled Group Question

    Vlad401k
    By Vlad401k,

    I have a question about Controlled Group relationship.

     

    Company A is owned 100% by Owner A. Company A has a Safe Harbor 401(k) Plan and a few employees.

     

    Company B is owned 50% by Owner A and 50% by Owner A's spouse. There are no other employees in Company B and no 401(k) Plan.

     

    Would Company A and B be part of a Controlled Group? To me, it seems like they would be due to attribution. So, Owner A owns 100% of Company A and 100% of Company B (50% on her own and 50% by attribution). In this case, would we need to know Owner A's compensation from Company B as well as the spouse's compensation from Company B and test the aggregate compensation from both companies in Company A's 401(k) Plan? The spouse would also be eligible to contribute to Company's A's 401(k) Plan, correct?

     

    Thank you.


    Might a turnover to a State’s abandoned-property administration be useful for an amount that is not rollover-eligible?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    About EBSA’s Field Assistance Bulletin No. 2025-01 (Jan. 14, 2025), many have remarked that it might be incongruous to use a turnover to a State’s abandoned-property administration instead of a rollover to an Individual Retirement Account.

    But what about an amount that’s not rollover-eligible because it’s the § 401(a)(9)-required distribution?

    Example: Mary severed from employment in 2016, and has made no communication to her individual-account retirement plan since. All of Mary’s account is non-Roth. In 2024, Mary reached age 73. Mary has not requested any distribution. If nothing changes before April 1, 2025, the plan provides an involuntary distribution of Mary’s § 401(a)(9)-required minimum. Following Mary’s December 31, 2024 account balance, assume her to-be-paid § 401(a)(9)-required minimum distribution is $900. The plan mails a check for that amount to Mary’s address of record. The plan gets no bounce-back or other notice about the address, and the plan’s use of LexisNexis and other tools confirms that the address of record still is Mary’s address. After seven months, Mary has neither deposited nor presented the check. The plan administrator’s repeated efforts to communicate with Mary got no response.

    Is it a given that the minimum-distribution amount cannot be put in an IRA?

    After a suitable noncommunication period, might the plan’s administrator turn over the April 1, 2025 payment amount to the relevant State’s abandoned-property administration?

    Or might the plan’s administrator do something else?


    2024 Annual Funding Notices Due in 2025

    Rick
    By Rick,

    Secure 2.0 has changed some of the information required in the 2024 Annual Funding Notices due during 2025.

    Does anyone know if we are still expecting a model notice to be released or are firms just individually changing the current model annual funding notice to comply with the new requirements?


    Discrimination Testing If Everyone Is An HCE

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    Just wanted to clarify something and make sure I'm not missing anything.  The client moved to being a co-op, meaning all employers have an equal ownership of the company.  17 current employees, so each employee technically owns more than 5% of the company.

    Am I wrong in thinking that this means everyone is an HCE, and therefore no ADP Testing is required?

    Obviously, if they add people and have more than 20 employees that would have to be re-evaluated.  But currently, no testing would be required correct?

    Thanks everyone!


    Beneficiary Designations and Divorce

    youngbenefitslawyer
    By youngbenefitslawyer,

    Participant designated family member before marriage, gets married, and then gets divorced.  Is the initial beneficiary designation reinstated or did the marriage void it?


    returning a refund... or not

    AlbanyConsultant
    By AlbanyConsultant,

    Short version: Participant A requires a 415 refund every year, and the participant and/or plan sponsor don't change anything, so it keeps happening, so we do a distribution each Fall.  For 2022, we processed a refund in November 2023, but in January 2024 A called to say that the refund didn't reach her.  After some panic, it was re-processed in January 2024.  The refund for 2023 was processed November 2024, no problem.  Now upon further discussion, A realizes that she did get the distribution in November 2023, so she got it twice.  A is 49 years old, not eligible for any in-service withdrawal from the plan.

    So step one will be to try to get A to return one of the distributions ($11K).  But she's already got a 1099R for it, and getting a recordkeeper to change it is going to be nigh-impossible.  So, really, what is A's incentive to return the money?  She's paid the taxes on it; if she returns the money, it gets taxed again on the way out?  I suppose we could try to set up an after-tax source at the rk, but... still, why would A want to return the money?

    For the plan sponsor, they have to ask for the money back.  And if A doesn't return it...?  Document the process, multiple requests, but ultimately they can't really DO anything if she doesn't return the money, as far as I can tell.

    What am I overlooking?  Thanks.


    Plan Trust Tax ID vs Employer Tax ID, can they be the same?

    RayJJohnsonJr
    By RayJJohnsonJr,

    When installing a new plan, I have always obtained a new tax ID for The Plan Trust. I'm taking over an existing plan and it appears the employer tax ID and the plan tax ID are the same number. 

    Has anyone one else seen this?


    Correcting TPA Errors While Correcting Delinquent Deposits - VFCP and 5330s

    Angershark
    By Angershark,

    So I recently received a request to assist with a VFCP application. I was provided the total of missed deferrals, payroll date, recovery date, distribution of lost earnings and 5330s.

    The failures occurred one in 2022 and twice in 2023.

    The 5330 for 2022 is very vague and doesn't include the correct dates, but the amount used to calculate the excise tax doesn't match the VFCP calculator with the actual recovery and final payment dates OR even if I used the recovery date as the final payment date.

    The 5330 for 2023 only includes one item which I can only assume adds the 2022 number to the lost earnings for 2023 instead of breaking them up by transaction and compounding the total, but this total is still off from what the calculator shows.

    The lost earnings summary for 2022 matches the 5330 for participant allocations, but so does the 2023. I mean that the entire amount of what I believe was the combined lost earnings was allocated to participants in 2023.

    I'm trying to get in touch with the TPA to see who taught them to fill out 5330s and how they came to their calculations. Regardless, it seems like the sponsor overpaid lost earnings by a around $100.

    I can't use their documentation and evidence because it won't match the calculator so it looks like I have to redo everything including the 5330's. DOL hasn't started an investigation yet but has sent a few "poke the body" notices.

    Does anybody have any other suggestions? And if I'm right and they did overpay lost earnings, is that a prohibited transaction in itself that needs correcting? We're talking a few pennies for the majority of participants and most aren't employed there anymore.

     


    ACP 4% non-discretionary match

    Bruce1
    By Bruce1,

    The plan has 3 employees. The owner and his spouse max their 402g and then an additional employee NHCE who doesn't contribute. The plan is a safe harbor 6% match. 

    Since the NHCE employee didn't contribute for 2024. Can we declare a 4% discretionary match for the 2024 year and will the match have to be run through the ACP test? 

    Is there anything I'm missing here? 


    Why are people not using Price Transparency Data?

    Self-InsuredPlanAdmin
    By Self-InsuredPlanAdmin,

    TLDR: Why is Price Transparency data not in wider use compared to UDS data?

    I'm researching the relatively new Price Transparency data required by the federal government as part of the Hospital Price Transparency (Hospital Prices) and the Transparency in Coverage (Health Plan Prices) rules. It seems to me that these new data would be a boon for self-insured employers to reprice their current year's health care claims with pricing data at the level of individual services (i.e. HCPCS, DRGs, etc) and to choose a health plan that would provide them with better savings for all of their employees (especially those with high deductibles). However, from what I can tell, the current industry standard is to use the UDS (Uniform Discount and Data Specification) data for this purpose, even though the UDS data is prone to major inaccuracies and is at a much more aggregate level (aggregated across 3-digit zip codes). And further, many brokers and consultants I have spoken to are dismissive of the Price Transparency data as not very useful.

    What am I missing here that makes the UDS data so much better than the Price Transparency Data?


    Who is the employer article

    ESOP Guy
    By ESOP Guy,

    There used to be an article on BenefitsLink about Who Is The Employer.  It seemed like I could easily find it when I needed it. 

    I am not finding it.  Is it still out there?  If so, does anyone have the link? 

    Thanks


    Cash Balance Plan - Interest Rate Amendment

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    We have a Cash Balance Plan that has been adopted since 2020.  For 2024 they have elected to amend the guaranteed interest rate up to 6%.

    My question is how does this impact 2020-2023.  When we are accruing balances going forward, are those years still credited at 5% annually and all new years credited at 6% annually?  Or should those years have accrued interest at 5%, but going forward they too get an interest rate of 6%?

    Basically, does the 6% only impact new contributions or does it impact all contributions moving forward?

    I hope that makes sense!


    ADP Test Correction & RMD

    pixiebear
    By pixiebear,

    We have a client who failed their ADP test and will be making a refund to the owner of the company. He is over age 73 and will need to take an RMD for 2025. Can the refund be treated as his RMD since it is a taxable distribution?


    Inherited IRA for Spousal Beneficiary

    Vlad401k
    By Vlad401k,

    An IRA account holder (who was over the age of 73 and already started taking RMDs) passed away in 2024. A spouse rolled over the assets into an Inherited IRA, but did not take an RMD in 2024.

    Is the RMD Penalty waived based on Notice 2024-35 or does that notice not apply to Spousal beneficiaries?

    Thank you.


    Avoiding Single-Employer Treatment for Portfolio Company Benefits

    NonQualified
    By NonQualified,

    I'm working with a company that buys and sells companies across various industries. It owns 80%+ of each portfolio company, so they’re all part of a controlled group. Right now, each portfolio company maintains its own benefit plans. So far, they’re passing non-discrimination testing (on a plan-by-plan basis), but the company is looking for a better long-term solution. Any ideas on how to structure these benefit plans across the portfolio companies in a way that avoids triggering single-employer treatment? QSLOBs seem like the best solution, but imperfect as QSLOBs will not always align with the corporate structure. 


    Employer operating both a SIMPLE IRA and 403(b) concurrently?

    KaJay
    By KaJay,

    An employer (church) has two employees. One employee participates in a 403(b)(9) non-electing church plan, the other employee is contributing to a SIMPLE IRA.

    Is this okay?

    I was under the impression an employer cannot have both of these in operation at the same time.


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