Lou S.
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I have one last off calendar 2019 form year to file for a 1 man plan. In the past we filed SF 1 -man but for 2020 year the form no longer exists. Can I still use the 5500-SF one man for a non-calendar year plan beginning in 2019 and ending in 2020? If I can't use the SF, can I electronically file the 2019 Form 5500-EZ or does it need to be filed on paper? That is can only the 2020 Form 5500-EZ now be filed electronically or can the 2019 Form 5500-EZ also be filed electronically.
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GAL as Alternate Payee???
Lou S. replied to Wacko in Winnebago's topic in Qualified Domestic Relations Orders (QDROs)
If it's a court order authorizing payment of child support for the minor child but I believe in that case the minor child is the alternate payee even if the gauradian is the one that receiving the payments and using them for child support and the taxes are the responsiblity of the partcipant. But maybe a QDRO expert (which I am not) can shed more light. -
Compensation Question - Part Year or Whole Year?
Lou S. replied to MarZDoates's topic in 401(k) Plans
The safe harbor non-elective has to be for a 12 month period to qualify as a safe harbor contribution but you can limit new entrants to comp from date of entry if the document allows. You sated you have no new entrants to the plan after 1/1 so my reading would be 12 months of comp for the safe harbor non-elective. -
Plan Disqualifiction?
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Because former clients rarely tell us of an address change and the ones that do aren't generally expecting a bill for preparing additional IRS forms? If the client reports the move prior to the final form 5500, then we'd use the new address on the final form. That doesn't seem to be what you're contemplating in this situation which is a move some time after the final return has been filed.
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How would that help for OP question? The OP wants to convert existing pretax plan money to ROTH, the only way to do that is through a 401(k) Plan that allows both ROTH contributions and ROTH conversions. I'm pretty sure new Money Purchase plans can not have a 401(k) feature and by extension no ROTH conversions either.
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DB benefit calculation question
Lou S. replied to PDNguyen's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
A lot depends on the plan terms, the age of each of your parents and when the payments for each form of benefit were supposed to begin. -
I believe that sounds correct though the QPLO (Qualified Plan Loan Offset) 1099-R code would be M1, M2, or M7 depending on the situation. Is code M3, M4 loan off set on disability/death an option? I hadn't really considered those before but I imagine people with outstanding loan die or become disabled from time to time as well.
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If I understand your specific fact you have 10 ees so TPG is 2 employees and piggy packing on Bill Preston and BG5150 for the OPs case The Two that have the highest compensation out of 1, 2, 3, 4 are HCE because they are in the TPG Then look at owners 1 and 2 if they are both of the employees in your TPG then you are done and have 2 HCEs, if they are not in your TPG group add them to the HCE pool because 5% owners are always HCEs and you will have 3 or 4 HCEs even though are using the TPG group.
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I just sent an e-mail to every one who we filed an extension basically telling them the IRS is way behind, don't worry about the notice you may receive, and to forward a copy to us for our records.
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Ownership interst in sponsoring employer held in trust plan income?
Lou S. replied to Purplemandinga's topic in 401(k) Plans
I'd suggest talking to his accountant. -
Ownership interst in sponsoring employer held in trust plan income?
Lou S. replied to Purplemandinga's topic in 401(k) Plans
I'm assuming the partner receives a K-1 for his self employment earned income from Partnership and that it's issued to him personally on his SSN not the Trust. -
Sounds like a Plan Administrator who took their ERISA duty to retain records required to pay all benefits as merely a suggestion. Does the Employer truly not have the records or do they just not want to search for them? Like are they in some storage they don't want to wade through or were they actually destroyed? Because like someone above mentioned I find it hard to believe there were no W-2s issued for the participants in question.
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If you are concerned about it you can file IRS Form 8822-B but like others have said this has never really crossed my mind.
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Ownership interst in sponsoring employer held in trust plan income?
Lou S. replied to Purplemandinga's topic in 401(k) Plans
If I understand your question Owner A gets earned income from the XYZ LLC which sponsors a qualified Plan. Owner A has put the LLC in his trust. Can Owner A participate in the Plan based on his earned income in XYZ LLC even though the trust is the holds ownership? If that's the question the answer is absolutely yes. And for plan purposes even tough the Trust holds it, Owner A is more than likely still deemed to own it. -
I think threads like this have come up on more occasions than one and that was in non-pandemic years. I believe a number of IRS processing sites including the one that receives and processes 5558s was completely shutdown for a long stretch in 2020.
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Missed Match more than 12 months after plan year end
Lou S. replied to Vlad401k's topic in 401(k) Plans
My bad. I was mixing up the 2 year period for significant failures. Either way, in this case one employee missing a match and being correcting "relatively soon" would seem to qualify for SCP in this case regardless of whether the error is considered significant or insignificant. Though as always the only 100% sure way would be VCP. -
Missed Match more than 12 months after plan year end
Lou S. replied to Vlad401k's topic in 401(k) Plans
If you qualify under self correction (SCP) as having procedures in place, its deemed an insignificant failure, and you are still in the 2 year window for corrections you can make the missing matching contribution along with lost earnings. If the failure was for the 2019 year you'd have until the end of the 2021 year to correct I believe. -
What do you mean by not required to adopt? My understanding is you need to comply with SECURE in operation but you have until the end of the 2022 plan to adopt conforming amendments. You can still allow 70 1/2 to 72 withdrawals for folks who come in under new rules, they just are no longer RMDs in the IRS eyes so they would be eligible for rollover.
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As to the side note - Family aggravation of comp was the worst. I think it came in with TRA 86 (?) with and went out around 98? I honestly don't recall the laws that brought it in and out. That was where HCE husband and wife (maybe kids too?) had one 401(a)(17) compensation limit. So if the comp limit was $150K and you had a husband and wife owner making $200K each then for plan purposes they each had $75K for allocation and testing but $200K in determining HCE. Good times. Almost as fun as 415(e) calcs. Thank god they got repealed as some point. A google search tells me SBJPA 96 killed family aggregation of comp, shout out to benefits link for still having it back then https://benefitslink.com/cgi-bin/qa.cgi?db=qa_who_is_employer&n=41
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402(g) Limit - Roth - After Year End
Lou S. replied to Vlad401k's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
For the refund of the amount in excess of 402(g) I would report Box 1 ($1,000), Box 2 ($0), Box 5 ($1,000) and code BP For the gain Box 1, ($200), Box 2 ($200), Box 5 $0, code B8. (Though I'm mot sure the B needs to be attached to the earnings, it may just be code 8). -
I don't think legal and appropriate are the same Luke. The waivers I'm sure are perfectly legal, but in a small plan setting they are rarely appropriate.
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Yes Luke, thanks for clarifying. I've never done such a submission but I have seen talk of them in other threads over the years on this site.
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I think the IRS position is still that "scriveners errors" doesn't exist. If the amendment was adopted you've already granted the service for vesting, it is likely that trying to unwind that would be viewed as a prohibited cutback by the IRS. You might want to check VCP to see if there is a correction for your issue if you can show what the intent was through corporate minutes and that the amendment was a drafting error.
