C. B. Zeller
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When you're referring to plans that use the OEE provision, do you mean plans that have different eligibility for deferrals and safe harbor? In general, the option to disaggregate otherwise excludable employees is a testing election that is made operationally - it is not a plan design specification. A plan that has the same eligibility for deferrals and safe harbor, and makes no other contributions, is considered to not be a top heavy plan. A plan that has different eligibility for deferrals and safe harbor, or that makes other non-safe harbor contributions, loses this exemption. The proposed regs say that basically, you ignore the LTPTEs entirely when you make this determination. So if everyone who is eligible for deferrals also gets safe harbor, except for the LTPTEs who are eligible for deferrals but get no safe harbor, then you still have a non-top-heavy plan. If there are some employees who met the plan's normal eligibility requirements (i.e. something less than 3 (or 2, starting in 2025) consecutive years of 500 hours of service) and those people are eligible to defer but not to receive safe harbor, then you lose your top heavy exemption. It IS confusing. I had written a couple more paragraphs about this but deleted it, worried that I might make your confusion worse. I'm hopeful that IRS will improve the situation in the final LTPT regs.
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Hardship Distribution - Primary Residence
C. B. Zeller replied to FishOn's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
SECURE 2.0 allows the plan administrator to rely upon the participant's self-certification that the hardship is one of the types specified in the regulations. Why are you requesting evidence? -
As far as I know, it's the same as it's ever been...file Form 5329.
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There are many different types of payments that are reported on "a 1099." You can read about some of them here: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/a-guide-to-information-returns Distributions from retirement plans and IRAs are reported on 1099-R. Payments to independent contractors could be reported on 1099-MISC or 1099-NEC.
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Designation of Beneficiary Form
C. B. Zeller replied to Pammie57's topic in Retirement Plans in General
Is this a 401(k) or profit sharing plan that is exempt from QJSA? The rule to be exempt from QJSA is that the spouse must be the sole beneficiary of the entire account balance. If the participant wants to designate someone else as the beneficiary, the spouse must consent. -
IRC 45E(c) defines who is an "eligible employer" for purposes of the credit: Paragraph (2) excludes employers which are a member of a controlled group if there was another plan in that controlled group covering "substantially the same employees." Presumably, if the plan being adopted for the newly-acquired company covered a separate group of employees, then the credit could still be allowed. I'll admit that my initial reaction was the same as Bill's - that you couldn't get the credit multiple times just by adopting multiple plans. However a closer reading of the statute seems that it might not be impossible after all. I wouldn't want to be the one making the call on this though. Pass this code section off to the accountant and let them interpret it. Or maybe they have a tax attorney consulting on all these acquisitions? They could hopefully offer an opinion. If they are doing multiple acquisitions, remember that they have to stay under 100 employees across the entire controlled group in order to be eligible for the credit at all.
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Good try, but nope. You can only borrow from the ADP test if the 401(k) plan is actually subject to the ADP test. 1.401(m)-2(a)(6)(ii)
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Voluntary Contribution and Roth Conversion
C. B. Zeller replied to Basically's topic in 401(k) Plans
The deadline to make voluntary after-tax contributions is 30 days after the end of the limitation year. 1.415(c)-1(b)(6)(i)(C) Assuming limitation year = plan year = calendar year, your client missed it by a couple of days. -
There is a special catch-up available in 403(b) plans that is designed to allow participants to make up for some years in which they didn't maximize their contributions. I don't deal with 403(b) plans enough to feel comfortable explaining it here, but you can research it if you're interested. There is nothing along those lines for 401(k) plans however.
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Unfortunately, they're going to have an uphill battle. If they go back to their former employer, the employer is going to say that the plan is terminated, and the benefits were transferred to the insurance company, so it's not their problem. The insurance company is going to say that the benefit isn't payable until age 65, and whatever information was provided previously is wrong, or not binding on them since it was provided by someone else, and again not their problem. Hopefully you have a copy of the Summary Plan Description. It will describe the early retirement benefit. That might be enough to convince the insurance company to take it seriously, but then again it might not. The insurance company should have an appeal process for denied claims, which you will probably have to use. And yes, you are correct that PBGC protection ended when the benefit was transferred to the insurance company. Good luck.
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Are you sure about this? Please go and read the document carefully. I have a feeling it actually says that it excludes non-resident aliens with no US-source income. If they are working in the US then they are not excludable under this definition regardless of their immigration or residency status.
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Eligibility Question - Consecutive Months of Service and YOS
C. B. Zeller replied to Rayofsunshine's topic in 401(k) Plans
The plan document should contain a definition of Year of Service for eligibility purposes. What does it say? -
Luke, you are correct. Circular 230 sec. 10.37(a)(2)(vi) forbids a practitioner from taking into account "the possibility that a tax return will not be audited or that a matter will not be raised on audit." Section 10.37 is titled "Requirements for written advice." Does that imply that you can advise a client on this as long as it is not in writing?
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The 1/3 test uses 414(s) compensation. The 5% test uses 415(c) compensation. For purposes of the gateway, BOTH may be measured either over just the period of plan participation, or over the plan year. This is because the option to use participation compensation for testing does not come from 414(s); it is found in the definition of "plan year compensation" in 1.401(a)(4)-12. If your system is excluding the pre-entry compensation for the 5% test, you may have it coded incorrectly.
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415 Limit Service
C. B. Zeller replied to Dougsbpc's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
You said it is W-2 comp which implies this is a corporation. I'm going to assume S-corp, since that's more common for small businesses. I'm also assuming you (and your client) are aware of the issues with reasonable compensation for S-corp shareholder employees. If there was no passthrough income from the corp to the shareholder in those years then it's probably not an issue. Just to clarify, what was his comp for 2023? You wrote $300,000 in the first paragraph but used $330,000 for your calculation. I'll assume that $330,000 is correct and that $300,000 was a typo. Under the circumstances, I would have no problem including the pre-2023 years of service for 415. However I would include them for 415 comp as well. The comp limit is the high 3-year average comp prorated for less than 10 years of service. So his comp limit at 12/31/2023 is (0 + 0 + 330,000) / 36 months = 9,167 * .5 = 4,583. -
I think you answered your own question. The plan clearly says that the allocation will be reduced so as not to violate 415. I would recommend changing the formula to individual allocation groups for the next plan year.
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ARPA 2024 Rates - Second Segment
C. B. Zeller replied to mwyatt's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
I believe 4.96% is correct. The 25-year average for the second segment as of September 2023 was 5.13% (Notice 2023-66). That gives us a 95-105% corridor of 4.87-5.39%. The actual 24-month average of 4.96% for January 2024 falls within that corridor, so it is not adjusted. -
1099-R coding for rollover of taxable amount to Roth IRA
C. B. Zeller replied to Tom's topic in 401(k) Plans
This is correct. If you're looking for it in the 1099-R instructions, it's under the heading "Qualified rollover contributions as defined in section 408A(e)." -
Allowing 401(k) but Excluding From Safe Harbor Match
C. B. Zeller replied to metsfan026's topic in 401(k) Plans
Are those 5 people HCEs? If so they could be excluded from the safe harbor. Otherwise, they could adopt a separate plan for those 5 people, as long as both plans pass coverage separately. But you couldn't do it within a single plan. -
Yes, the employee needs a top heavy minimum for 2024, because So whether or not the employee is Key for 2024 doesn't matter. The owner and spouse will need a top heavy minimum too. For the record though, the employee is non-Key for 2024. The 5% owner test (as well as the 1% owner test and the officer test) are made on the basis of the plan year containing the determination date; in other words, the prior plan year (most of the time). See 1.416-1 Q&A T-12
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The flow charts on pages 45-46 are a great place to start: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/epchd704.pdf
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What does your prospective client do and who paid them the $500k? I'm guessing your prospective client is a consultant or something along those lines, and this payment was from one of their clients who wants to preclude them from providing their services to any of their competitors? So not really a non-compete, but more of an exclusivity agreement? Or maybe something that prevents your prospect from going into business for themselves in competition with their client? If that's the case, then I think it probably is usable for pension purposes, as it directly relates to the services they provide as part of their business. Essentially they received a bonus for doing such good work that their client wants to keep your client to themselves. On the other hand, if your prospective client isn't providing ongoing services to the person that paid them the $500k, then I would feel differently about it. For example if the payer felt that whatever your client is doing might be a threat to their business, so they are paying them $500k to get lost. In that case, the payment is for work they are NOT doing and would probably not be usable income for a pension. Interesting question! I'll qualify my entire reply here and say that this is a bit outside my area of expertise - I would recommend getting an attorney to review the facts.
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If the amount was distributed in 2024 then it is taxable in 2024. Sorry to say, but waiting until the last minute caused this individual to miss their RMD for 2023. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. At least the missed RMD was timely corrected and the excise tax is reduced to 10% under the new SECURE 2.0 rule. They could also request a waiver of the excise tax on Form 5329.
