Peter Gulia Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 A small plan's administrator files Form 5500 (not 5500-SF) and, although it does not engage a CPA to audit the plan's financial statements, prepares financial statements and wants to submit them as a part of the Form 5500 report. How, mechanically, does a filer do this? Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Tom Poje Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 with FT William, you could attach and select 'other attachment'. then you can name what the attachment is, does, etc.
Kevin C Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 ASC also allows an "Other attachment" option, although I would be concerned that the DOL might think it is an IQPA audit.
Peter Gulia Posted January 30, 2017 Author Posted January 30, 2017 Tom Poje and Kevin C, thank you for your great help. Am I right in guessing such an "other attachment" slot lets a user upload any .pdf? Will the document submitted under this "other" slot be included within the Form 5500 report posted on EBSA's public-display website? Bill Presson 1 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Kevin C Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 All attachments should be included with the filing on the DOL website, after they have been reviewed by the DOL.
Bill Presson Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Fiduciary Guidance Counsel said: Tom Poje and Kevin C, thank you for your great help. Am I right in guessing such an "other attachment" slot lets a user upload any .pdf? Will the document submitted under this "other" slot be included within the Form 5500 report posted on EBSA's public-display website? Yes. And I think it begs the question as to why the sponsor wants to do this. On the face, it makes no sense. William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Tom Poje Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 if it is a pdf file there is no way for the IRS website what it contains so it should accept it. (or put another way, how the heck can the website know? if it was a word file it wouldn't take it because it is a wrong format, but other than that...) I thought any and all attachments are viewable. I think, for example they warn you don't attach SSA because soc sec numbers would be visible
BG5150 Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 Audited Financials are not shown immediately. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
RatherBeGolfing Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 When you file with an attachment the DOL will not put up the filing until they have verified that the attachment does not contain certain personal information.
Peter Gulia Posted January 31, 2017 Author Posted January 31, 2017 Thanks for the further information. In my experience, the Labor department is quick on checking the attachments for information that would identify a natural person. I've seen a posted display including the attachments in as little as an hour after the submission. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
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