shERPA Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 OK, so this came out just now. It is silent as to 404(a)(6) and IRAs. Do employers automatically get til 7/15 to make and deduct their 2019 plan contributions? I think it should work for sole props and C corps whose returns are due 4/15 but get this automatic extension to 7/15. It specifically extends the due date of the returns and 404(a)(6) references the due date of the return. Do IRA deposits also get an extension to 7/15? Quote The relief provided in this section III is available solely with respect to Federal income tax payments (including payments of tax on self-employment income) and Federal income tax returns due on April 15, 2020, in respect of an Affected Taxpayer’s 2019 taxable year, and Federal estimated income tax payments (including payments of tax on self-employment income) due on April 15, 2020, for an Affected Taxpayer’s 2020 taxable year. I carry stuff uphill for others who get all the glory.
shERPA Posted March 23, 2020 Author Posted March 23, 2020 Anyone? People are asking if they can delay their contributions til 7/15. I carry stuff uphill for others who get all the glory.
Peter Gulia Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 For questions about whether an employer gets a 2019 deduction for a contribution made after April 15, 2020: I.R.C. § 404(a)(6) Time When Contributions Deemed Made — For purposes of paragraphs (1), (2), and (3), a taxpayer shall be deemed to have made a payment on the last day of the preceding taxable year if the payment is on account of such taxable year and is made not later than the time prescribed by law for filing the return for such taxable year (including extensions thereof). Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Larry Starr Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, shERPA said: Anyone? People are asking if they can delay their contributions til 7/15. I'm going to believe that once they get the current bill done, we will get some clarifications that will allow the 4/15 date to move as well for IRA deposits. But, that and $1.50...... Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC President Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. 46 Daggett Drive West Springfield, MA 01089 413-736-2066 larrystarr@qpc-inc.com
Barbara Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 and what about delaying DB required deposits beyond 9/15?
Mike Preston Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Barbara said: and what about delaying DB required deposits beyond 9/15? Never happened before, but we are in uncharted territory.
shERPA Posted March 24, 2020 Author Posted March 24, 2020 16 hours ago, Mike Preston said: Never happened before, but we are in uncharted territory. Yeah, unless there is an actual bill that looks like it has some momentum, I'm not going to suggest to clients that a minimum funding extension is even a possibility. I carry stuff uphill for others who get all the glory.
Larry Starr Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, shERPA said: Yeah, unless there is an actual bill that looks like it has some momentum, I'm not going to suggest to clients that a minimum funding extension is even a possibility. Definitely the way to go until we have some official guidance otherwise. Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC President Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. 46 Daggett Drive West Springfield, MA 01089 413-736-2066 larrystarr@qpc-inc.com
Bill Presson Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/filing-and-payment-deadlines-questions-and-answers Updated FAQ on the Notice Luke Bailey 1 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Larry Starr Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 22 hours ago, Larry Starr said: I'm going to believe that once they get the current bill done, we will get some clarifications that will allow the 4/15 date to move as well for IRA deposits. But, that and $1.50...... IRS has now confirmed that the IRA deadline is also extended. Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC President Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. 46 Daggett Drive West Springfield, MA 01089 413-736-2066 larrystarr@qpc-inc.com
Peter Gulia Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 And the IRC § 404(a)(6) time for a deductible contribution: A20. Yes, because these employers are Affected Taxpayers under Notice 2020-18 for whom the due date for filing Federal income tax returns and making Federal income tax payments that would be due April 15, 2020, is now July 15, 2020, the end of the grace period for these employers is also July 15, 2020 under this relief. So, for example, if an employer is a corporation with an April 15, 2020 due date for filing the Form 1120, then the grace period under section 404(a)(6) for the employer to make contributions to its workplace-based retirement plan that are treated as made on account of 2019 ends on July 15, 2020. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
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