Blue_Sky Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 I am a software consultant. I work through my LLC. My LLC has a 2 Solo 401K plans. One Roth and another one traditional. I contribute $19500 to the Roth account and 25% profit to the traditional account. My wife is a housewife and doesn't work. Can she also contribute to any Solo 401K (I will give her money to contribute) ? Do we have any options ? Please advise.
Bird Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 Your wife needs earned income to contibute, so when you say you will give her the money, it would have to be as some sort of taxable income, either as W-2 from your company, in which case she can contribute to your plan, or as 1099 income from your company to hers, in which case she needs to set up her own plan. Whether that income is legit is a different matter. If you're doing this on your own...good luck, you have enough rope to hang yourself. C. B. Zeller 1 Ed Snyder
RatherBeGolfing Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Blue_Sky said: My LLC has a 2 Solo 401K plans Why? There is no benefit to maintaining two one participant plans.
C. B. Zeller Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, RatherBeGolfing said: Why? There is no benefit to maintaining two one participant plans. He might just mean two accounts. I've seen more than a few doctors etc. have one brokerage account for their Roth 401(k) and a separate one for their PS and refer to them as the Roth "plan" and the PS "plan" even though there is just one plan doc and one 5500. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Blue_Sky Posted October 28, 2020 Author Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Bird said: If you're doing this on your own...good luck, you have enough rope to hang yourself. I don't know how to do this or is it possible at all to do this. Do you recommend any company ?
RatherBeGolfing Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Blue_Sky said: I don't know how to do this or is it possible at all to do this. Do you recommend any company ? If you work with an investment advisor, CPA, or attorney, you can ask they have Third Party Administrator (TPA) they work with or can recommend.
QDROphile Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 But don't get lost in the fraud forest because of the formal trees. One must have legitimate earned income as a base for qualified plan contributions. This is often addressed when children are involved with a parental desire to to provide for tax deferred savings for the children as part of wealth transfer and tax avoidance/evasion. Luke Bailey 1
Bird Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Blue_Sky said: I don't know how to do this or is it possible at all to do this. Do you recommend any company ? Yeah I didn't mean to be curt or rude but most of us here are fee for service people so any advice we give is a freebie. That's ok and most of us don't mind, up to a point. There are some red flags in your post (two plans when you only need one; although there isn't necessarily harm in having two and it's a way to keep the different types of money separate). As suggested, ask your broker or CPA if they can recommend a local third party administrator or try a search in your area - it's not necessarily to have someone nearby but (I think) you're more likely to get a hands on type of person rather than a giant national firm that doesn't do service very well. Ed Snyder
Blue_Sky Posted October 28, 2020 Author Posted October 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bird said: two plans when you only need one Two plans mean two accounts actually.
BG5150 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 Do you have a written plan document? If so, who did that for you? Talk to them. If not, then you don't have one or two plans. You have NONE. Lisa.Q and Luke Bailey 2 QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Blue_Sky Posted October 29, 2020 Author Posted October 29, 2020 7 hours ago, BG5150 said: Do you have a written plan document? If so, who did that for you? Talk to them. If not, then you don't have one or two plans. You have NONE. I have collected the forms from TD Ameritrade local office and filled it out by myself. I collected two froms. One for Roth and another one for traditional.
BG5150 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 A plan document will be more than just a form or two. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
RatherBeGolfing Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, BG5150 said: A plan document will be more than just a form or two. Some financial institution "documents" usually consists of a short "fill it in yourself" adoption agreement with references to a BPD and opinion letter, but I have never seen someone with an actual copy of the BPD to go with their AA. It could be that short with TDA, but it also might not be.
BG5150 Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 6 hours ago, RatherBeGolfing said: Some financial institution "documents" usually consists of a short "fill it in yourself" adoption agreement with references to a BPD and opinion letter, but I have never seen someone with an actual copy of the BPD to go with their AA. It could be that short with TDA, but it also might not be. I wouldn't think there would be two forms. Maybe this is a SEP IRA or something? Ble_Sky: Is there more than $250,000 in the "plan(s)" combined? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
RatherBeGolfing Posted October 29, 2020 Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, BG5150 said: I wouldn't think there would be two forms. Maybe this is a SEP IRA or something? Ble_Sky: Is there more than $250,000 in the "plan(s)" combined? https://www.tdameritrade.com/retirement-planning/small-business/individual-401k.page TDA calls it a "complete individual 401(k) Kit" with an adoption agreement, BPD, and application for investment account. @Blue_Sky does that sound like what you collected and filled out? Bill Presson 1
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