52626 Posted Monday at 03:25 PM Posted Monday at 03:25 PM Plan has three related employers ( controlled group). Forfeitures are held in one forfeiture account - Question - is there any issue with allowing the related employer to only use forfeitures triggered by former employees within their group. For example there is $100,000 in the forfeiture account - $40,000 from Company A, $10,000 from Company B and $50,000 from Company C. The Plan Sponsor would like each entity to use only the forfeitures triggered by their respective former participants. Plan document does not address is provision
Peter Gulia Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Consider amending the documents governing the plan so they provide what the plan sponsor wants. Before writing an amendment, evaluate whether an otherwise desired provision might result in a tax-disqualifying discrimination in favor of highly-compensated employees. This is not advice to anyone. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
BG5150 Posted Monday at 07:46 PM Posted Monday at 07:46 PM Side note: Is this a really big plan? $100k in forfs seems like a lot. Disclosure: I deal with mostly small(er) plans. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Paul I Posted Monday at 07:54 PM Posted Monday at 07:54 PM Keep in mind that the forfeiture account is supposed to be cleared out every year. If the plan has been accumulating forfeitures in a consolidated forfeiture account over multiple years, there could be an operational issue if the Plan Sponsor is thinking of splitting up and applying these aged amounts by employer. ratherbereading 1
Bri Posted Monday at 08:03 PM Posted Monday at 08:03 PM ....and don't be cutting back any allocations of the forfeitures where you might come to realize language was always on the books!
David D Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Might also want to see what the Adoption Agreement says. Many Adoption Agreements have an option that addresses that by the pre approved providers.
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