Belgarath Posted November 11, 2021 Posted November 11, 2021 If A & B are the Trustees of a plan, and the plan is restated naming C & D as Trustees, does that have the legal effect of removing A & B as Trustees? Or is a separate formal removal required? I don't see that the document directly addresses this issue.
ratherbereading Posted November 11, 2021 Posted November 11, 2021 Same issue here. We just noted the new trustee in the new doc and send a notice to our client to send to the old trustee, who is term'd, that he was removed . 4 out of 3 people struggle with math
Bill Presson Posted November 11, 2021 Posted November 11, 2021 We consulted with the legal counsel on our document provider about this. They said the plan still needs to provide notice to A & B, otherwise how would they know they are no longer Trustees? It's a formality and we use a notice that asks them to sign an acknowledgment, but also says it's effective 31 days after the notice regardless. William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
msmith Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 What if A and B have terminated employment? Are they no longer Trustees, by default? They are not likely to sign something and return it. As a reminder, TPA's usually find out about this months after the termination.
Mike Preston Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 Employees that take on the role of plan trustee and then terminate without communicating about the cessation of duties... deserve their fate? Maybe that's a bit harsh. But I think you know what I mean. shERPA 1
Bill Presson Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, msmith said: What if A and B have terminated employment? Are they no longer Trustees, by default? They are not likely to sign something and return it. As a reminder, TPA's usually find out about this months after the termination. As I mentioned, our notice has a "you're done 31 days after the notice" regardless of whether they sign. A provision like that should be in the trust agreement. Luke Bailey and shERPA 2 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
msmith Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 I like that idea, Bill. I have also had issues where the Trustee has died. So, he is not likely to be getting his mail or email anymore. Also, as the TPA, we are typically the last to know; and it is generally a couple of months (so more than 30 days). Bill Presson 1
Bill Presson Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 I would think death would imply automatic resignation and no notice is required. Just documentation. shERPA 1 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
BG5150 Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 When we do amendments the software has an employer resolution template where they and both add and remove trustees. In the adoption agreement, we just delete the old Ttees and add the new ones. The memorialization (is that a word? I don't think so) comes in the resolution, not the plan doc. Bill Presson 1 QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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