Ian Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Based on the language of SECURE 2.0, it appears that new distributions for those terminally ill can only be made when the person is otherwise eligible for a distribution. But other new distributions (e.g., emergencies and domestic abuse) create new distributable events. In either case, however, allowing any of these new distributions is optional. Do you all agree, or do you read the law differently?
C. B. Zeller Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Agreed, this section does not create a new distributable event, it only creates a new exemption from the 10% excise tax. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Ian Posted January 27, 2023 Author Posted January 27, 2023 Thanks. To clarify, you mean the terminal illness distribution only -- not the others? Also, what good is this if elective deferrals (and, in most plans, employer contributions) can't come out before 59 1/2 anyhow w/o hardship? (Doesn't seem they're adding this to the hardship withdrawal safe harbor.)
C. B. Zeller Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Yes, I was only talking about the terminal illness distributions. Qualified disaster recovery distributions, emergency expense distributions, and domestic abuse distributions (did I miss any?) are all clearly new distributable events. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Popular Post Peter Gulia Posted January 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 28, 2023 For thirteen kinds of distributions added or changed by SECURE 2019 and 2022, here’s my table to show whether: the specified kind of distribution is an exception from a provision that restrains a distribution until the participant’s severance-from-employment or age 59½; a plan’s administrator may rely on a claimant’s written certification that the claim meets conditions for the specified kind of distribution; the specified kind of distribution is an exception from § 72(t)(1)’s additional income tax on a too-early distribution; a distributee of the specified kind of distribution may repay the amount as a rollover contribution to an eligible retirement plan. Distributions added or changed by SECURE 2019 and 2022 I.R.C. § Kind of distribution (from an individual-account eligible retirement plan) Early?[1] Rely?[2] Excuse?[3] Repay?[4] Applies[5] 72(t)(H) Qualified birth or adoption distribution. Yes Yes Yes Yes 2020 72(t)(I) Emergency personal expense distribution Yes Yes Yes Yes 2024 72(t)(J) From a § 402A(e) emergency savings account Yes Yes Yes No 2024 72(t)(2)(K) Eligible distribution to domestic abuse victim Yes Yes Yes Yes 2024 72(t)(2)(L) Terminal illness No -- Yes Yes 2023 [6] 72(t)(2)(M) Qualified disaster recovery distribution Yes No Yes Yes 2021 [7] 72(t)(2)(N) Qualified long term care distribution No -- Yes No 2026 [8] 72(t)(10) Qualified public safety employee age 50 or 25 years No -- Yes No 2007 72(t)(11) Qualified disaster recovery distribution Yes No Yes Yes 2021 [9] 139C Qualified first responder retirement payments (disability-related) No -- No [10] No 2027 401(a)(39) Qualified long term care distribution No -- Yes No 2026 [11] 401(k)(14)(C) Hardship distribution (certification) Yes Yes No No 2023 402(l)(5)(A) Governmental plan payment for safety officer’s health insurance No -- Yes No 2023 [12] 403(b) Hardship distribution (certification) Yes Yes No No 2024 457(d)(4) Unforeseeable-emergency distribution (certification) Yes Yes No No 2023 2022 Dec. 29 © Guidance Publishers NOT tax or legal advice [1] This column describes whether the specified kind of distribution is an exception from a provision that restrains a distribution until the participant’s severance-from-employment or age 59½. [2] This column describes whether a plan’s administrator may rely on a claimant’s written “certification” that the claim meets conditions for the specified kind of distribution. [3] This column describes whether the specified kind of distribution is an exception from § 72(t)(1)’s additional income tax on a too-early distribution. [4] This column describes whether a distributee of the specified kind of distribution may repay the amount as a rollover contribution to an eligible retirement plan. [5] A note about when a provision first applies assumes all relevant plan, limitation, and tax years are the calendar year. [6] Internal Revenue Code of 1986 § 72(t)(2)(L) applies to a distribution made after December 29, 2022. [7] The changes apply regarding disasters with incident periods that began on or after January 26, 2021. [8] The change applies to distributions made after December 29, 2025. [9] The changes apply regarding disasters with incident periods that began on or after January 26, 2021. [10] Internal Revenue Code of 1986 § 139C provides an exclusion from gross income, which could affect the income subject to a § 72(t)(1) tax. [11] The change applies to distributions made after December 29, 2025. [12] The change applies to distributions made after December 29, 2022. Distributions added or changed by SECURE 2019 and 2022.pdf Belgarath, Bill Presson, DMcGovern and 4 others 6 1 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Ian Posted January 28, 2023 Author Posted January 28, 2023 This is extremely valuable. Thanks so much!! So, the exception to the 10% penalty for terminal illness would really only apply to those who terminate employment before 59 1/2.
AMDG Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 4:11 PM, Ian said: This is extremely valuable. Thanks so much!! So, the exception to the 10% penalty for terminal illness would really only apply to those who terminate employment before 59 1/2. The exception to the 10% penalty for terminal illness would really only apply to those who terminate employment before 55, right?
MDCPA Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 17 hours ago, AMDG said: The exception to the 10% penalty for terminal illness would really only apply to those who terminate employment before 55, right? Agree
Patricia Neal Jensen Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Thanks so much, Peter! Patricia Neal Jensen, JD Vice President and Nonprofit Practice Leader |Future Plan, an Ascensus Company 21031 Ventura Blvd., 12th Floor Woodland Hills, CA 91364 E patricia.jensen@futureplan.com P 949-325-6727
Peter Gulia Posted February 7, 2023 Posted February 7, 2023 Thanks. I added a note: Widenings of which former employees might get this exception apply for a distribution after December 29, 2022. Providing this exception not only for age 50 but also for 25 years of service applies for a distribution after December 29, 2022. I didn’t edit the reference to § 72(t)(10), which refers to both its subparagraphs. Subparagraph (A) states the exception from the too-early tax. Subparagraph (B) states the specially defined term qualified public safety employee. That definition is “[f]or purposes of this paragraph,”—that is, § 72(t)(10). Yet, I see some awkwardness: Section 72(t)(10)(A) provides the exception from the too-early tax “to an employee who provides firefighting services” even if she was neither “any employee of a State or political subdivision of a State” within the meaning of § 72(t)(10)(B)(i) nor someone described in § 72(t)(10)(B)(ii). That paragraph (10)’s heading now mentions “private sector firefighters” suggests Congress might have intended to provide this exception from the too-early tax not only to those who received the distribution from a governmental plan but also “to an employee who provides firefighting services[.]” Distributions added or changed by SECURE 2019 and 2022.pdf Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
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