Peter Gulia Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 An employer maintains two § 401(a)-(k) plans, one for manufacturing employees, who are union-represented, and another for office employees, none of whom is union-represented. The employer is considering merging the two plans into one. The plan for office employees uses a safe-harbor matching contribution to meet rules about coverage, nondiscrimination, and top-heavy. Even after the plans’ merger, there would be no risk, even with substantial growth in both headcounts, that the merged plan’s participant count would reach a number that calls for engaging an independent qualified public accountant. The employer is not worried about a tax-qualification defect for either plan. Are there other reasons for not merging the plans? Are there other reasons to prefer the hygiene of separate plans? Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
C. B. Zeller Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 If the employer is relying on an IRS-preapproved plan document, it might be difficult, if not impossible, to accommodate different benefit structures for the union and non-union employees on a single document. Not just the safe harbor contributions (or lack thereof), but if there are any different eligibility or distribution options for the two groups. If there are different pay schedules (e.g. weekly for the union employees and semi-monthly for the office employees), the plan's recordkeeper or other service provider may struggle to correctly account for that difference within a single plan. ugueth, Peter Gulia and hr for me 2 1 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Paul I Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 Employee benefits for unions are collectively bargained and timing of the effective dates of changes to the union plan are tied to effective date of the bargaining agreement. That often differs from the effective dates of changes in the nonunion plan. ugueth, hr for me, Peter Gulia and 1 other 3 1
Peter Gulia Posted March 31, 2023 Author Posted March 31, 2023 C.B. Zeller and Paul I, thank you for your thoughtful good help. Beyond simply crediting contributions when the recordkeeper receives them, is there another reason for the employer to worry that different payroll schedules confuses the recordkeeper? Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
C. B. Zeller Posted March 31, 2023 Posted March 31, 2023 There are a number of reasons why a recordkeeper might care about an employee's pay schedule. If the plan allows loans, and the recordkeeper produces the loan repayment schedule, that schedule would normally need to be aligned to the employee's pay dates. Some recordkeepers may provide missed contribution notifications to the employer, if an expected contribution is not received by a certain date. Peter Gulia and Bill Presson 1 1 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Popular Post Below Ground Posted April 3, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 3, 2023 IMHO, you should never combine union and nonunion plans. There are a number of reasons for this position, but I focus on one. Union plans are frequently subject to review and adjustment to reflect the collective bargaining. You would be putting a program, the plan as applied to nonunion employees, within the negotiations with the union. This can cause several problems, not just related to levels of benefits which of course would be subject to scrutiny. I suggest the better question is why would you want to combine these plans, putting your nonunion benefits in the middle of what might be adversarial negotiations. You have different populations, with different agendas. Combining plans seems to just be asking for trouble. Bill Presson, acm_acm, Peter Gulia and 2 others 4 1 Having braved the blizzard, I take a moment to contemplate the meaning of life. Should I really be riding in such cold? Why are my goggles covered with a thin layer of ice? Will this effect coverage testing? QPA, QKA
Peter Gulia Posted April 3, 2023 Author Posted April 3, 2023 Below Ground, thank you for a most compelling reason to leave the plans distinct. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
Below Ground Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 Peter, You are welcome. I feel compelled to note that comments you have made in the past have helped me, so I am glad that I was able to help you. Dave Bill Presson 1 Having braved the blizzard, I take a moment to contemplate the meaning of life. Should I really be riding in such cold? Why are my goggles covered with a thin layer of ice? Will this effect coverage testing? QPA, QKA
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