Coleboy1 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 We have just taken over a 401(k) plan with a safe harbor match. The plan's eligibility has no age or service requirement. Union employees as well as part time employees as a class are excluded.. In previous years, the plan has failed the minimum coverage tests. Now, for 2025, the client wants to change the eligibility to 3 months and 250 hours of service beginning 10/01/2025. Anyone hired on or after that date would be subject to the new eligibility. They are looking for ways this late in the year to avoid failing the minimum coverage test for 2025. I don't think the above is feasible and would help. Any insights would be appreciated.
Lou S. Posted September 24 Posted September 24 They failing even when testing otherwise excludable separately? That's without getting into the question of whether or not "part-time" is a reasonable classification for exclusion. RatherBeGolfing and David D 2
Popular Post Bill Presson Posted September 24 Popular Post Posted September 24 I question whether it is possible for a plan to fail coverage the way you have described. Show the numbers for the test. Bri, David Schultz, Paul I and 3 others 6 William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Coleboy1 Posted September 25 Author Posted September 25 I was also questioning how they failed. we are just taking over this plan for 2025. ADP hasn't released the testing results to us yet so I have nothing to show you. I am only going on what my boss said to me yesterday. Apparently there are many part timers who only work a few weekends a year as it's a theater group. I will gladly share the number when I get them. Thank you! Bill Presson 1
Popular Post C. B. Zeller Posted September 25 Popular Post Posted September 25 14 hours ago, Coleboy1 said: part time employees as a class are excluded This is an illegal exclusion unless the plan provides a 1000 hours fail-safe. In other words, the plan must provide that, regardless of the excluded class, a part-time employee who actually works 1000 hours enters the plan. Given that, the plan should satisfy the coverage test when using the option to disaggregate otherwise excludable employees. acm_acm, CuseFan, David D and 2 others 5 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
FormsRstillmylife Posted September 29 Posted September 29 Perhaps they mean that the group receiving the safe harbor match fails 410? Too few contributing 401(k) to receive a match and the contributors include HCEs.
Bri Posted September 29 Posted September 29 Coverage testing isn't hurt because an eligible person contributed 0 and got no match specifically because the match calculates to zero, though. Bill Presson 1
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