TPApril Posted Tuesday at 08:52 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:52 PM Terminated participant took final distribution. Nonvested portion has been forfeited. As this was the only non-key participant, the full forfeiture account balance is from this participant. Plan has since decided to make a PS contribution for the prior plan year, and this participant is due a top heavy min 3% contribution. Plan doc allows forfeitures to be used towards top heavy minimum contributions. Doesn't seem to feel right, but any reason the top heavy minimum contribution cannot come from participant's own forfeitures?
RatherBeGolfing Posted Tuesday at 09:23 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:23 PM You didn't bring it up, but no issues with partial plan term, right? Asking since "this was the only non-key participant"... Assuming forfeiture was proper, I don't see a problem using it to fund the THM.
TPApril Posted 20 hours ago Author Posted 20 hours ago 7 hours ago, RatherBeGolfing said: You didn't bring it up, but no issues with partial plan term, right? Asking since "this was the only non-key participant"... Assuming forfeiture was proper, I don't see a problem using it to fund the THM. She quit, was not laid off or terminated by employer.
ratherbereading Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago No issue with that. 4 out of 3 people struggle with math
RatherBeGolfing Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 7 hours ago, TPApril said: She quit, was not laid off or terminated by employer. Then no issues with using the forfeiture. In fact, you would probably create an issue if you don't use the forfeiture when available.
Bri Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I've seen plan documents that say if the person's going to share in the allocation, they don't actually forfeit the nonvested portion yet....so maybe just spot-check your section there, too.
TPApril Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Bri said: I've seen plan documents that say if the person's going to share in the allocation, they don't actually forfeit the nonvested portion yet....so maybe just spot-check your section there, too. Indeed, if the terminated participant had not taken their vested distribution, the forfeited amounts would not be available and the Plan Sponsor would need to make the actual cotnribution.
Jakyasar Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Even if the balance is less than force-out limit? Just curious. QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure
TPApril Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Jakyasar said: Even if the balance is less than force-out limit? Just curious. Yes the vested balance is under the force out limit, when considered by itself. However, intent is to do a final rollover of vested balance of top heavy contribution since we are still within 180 days of Special Tax Notice.
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