Belgarath Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 The old different match rates conundrum. Employer wants to keep existing match level for all current employees, but use a lower match rate for all new employees. Passes current availability testing just fine (for now) but since current employees include ALL of the HC, I don't see any way for this to pass effective availability. Anyone have any bright ideas on this?
CuseFan Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Your threshold for availability on BRFs is the nondiscriminatory classification safe harbor percentage, which is usually fairly low unless you have high HCE concentration, so unless there is a lot of turnover and new entrants compared to existing participants at grandfathered match, this shouldn't be an issue for a while. http://www.asppa.org/Portals/2/PDFs/2015AnnualHandouts/WS62 - Benefits, Rights and Features Identifying, Testing and Amending.pdf Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Belgarath Posted September 20, 2018 Author Posted September 20, 2018 Thanks, but I'm not worried about current availability - that piece passes just fine. But the effective availability seems problematical. Are you saying that you think effective availability in this situation is ok? None of the new hires will EVER be able to receive the higher match. (Now, if some of the new hires were HC, then I might feel differently.) Thoughts?
JRN Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 FWIW, the rule that the rate of match is considered a BRF troubles me. Matching contributions of course have their own nondiscrimination test -- 401(m). It seems to me that if a plan with different rates of matching contribution passes 401(m). that should be enough. Just my 2 cents worth.
BG5150 Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 Call your Congressman. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Tom Poje Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 if you call your Congressman/woman, tell him /her that 1.401(a)(4)-4(e)(3)(iii)(G) indicates right to each rate of match is a BRF issue and since the plan already has to pass the ACP test that should be enough and the BRF isn't needed. ACK and C. B. Zeller 2
BG5150 Posted September 26, 2018 Posted September 26, 2018 And talk to them about the Top Heavy rules, too, and how they are not needed any more... QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
RatherBeGolfing Posted September 26, 2018 Posted September 26, 2018 And if we could get rid of those pesky deadlines.... K2retire 1
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