52626 Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Participant enrolled and deferrals withheld and timely deposited. In September the employee reached $18,500. Payroll stopped his deferral. The participant was over 50. Due to a payroll glitch, the catch up contributions were not withheld. In January the employer realized the error. They have corrected the payroll issue. Any action required by the employer for these "missed" deferrals? The employer does not make a match contribution.
C. B. Zeller Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 Sounds like a missed deferral opportunity to me: https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/fixing-common-plan-mistakes-correcting-a-failure-to-effect-employee-deferral-elections ugueth 1 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Flyboyjohn Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 Some plans/recordkeepers/payroll systems (including my current employer) require a separate deferral election with respect to the catch up amount. I think it's stupid/illogical and possibly some kind of violation but I have to be careful to go into our online plan portal and enter my "catch up" deferral election after I've hit the basic deferral limit. Point being you may not have a missed deferral opportunity depending on the plan's requirements for electing "catch up" deferrals. Bird and hr for me 2
CuseFan Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 It never ceases to amaze me how the IRS, DOL and industry practitioners have generally absolved the participant of any and all responsibility with respect to their contributions and retirement accounts. If I'm over age 50 and knowing/expecting/wanting to save more than $18,500 then I'm going to be damn sure my contributions continue. Or people who elect a contribution change and don't recognize (for months or even years - not a lie) that their contribution (or take home pay) never changed - hello, McFly! Yes, plan sponsors are responsible to properly administer their plans, but I think participants should incur some responsibility as well, especially if they have received multiple sources (pay stubs, quarterly statements, etc.) that clearly show any errors. Sorry, just my grumpy Monday rant because the 'Cuse got toasted Saturday at Va Tech and the wrong two teams are in the Super Bowl. hr for me and Brenda Wren 2 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
David Schultz Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 This is a missed deferral opportunity and there are stated self-correction procedures under EPCRS (generally requiring an employer QNEC contribution for part of the missed deferral). See Rev. Proc. 2018-52 Appendix A.05(4), (5), and (9)(b). Based on the facts provided, this likely falls under (9)(b).
cheersmate Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 1:46 PM, CuseFan said: Sorry, just my grumpy Monday rant because the 'Cuse got toasted Saturday at Va Tech and the wrong two teams are in the Super Bowl. HOKIES! HOKIES! HOKIES! ... sorry, just a bit of fun! ;)
BG5150 Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, cheersmate said: HOKIES! HOKIES! HOKIES! ... sorry, just a bit of fun! ;) What was with the pink uniforms? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
CuseFan Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, BG5150 said: What was with the pink uniforms? Really, and I thought Oregon's neon green unis were obnoxious. But they played a great game so I have to give them their props and harbor no animosity to the Hokie Pokies! Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Mike Preston Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 I want to know who made the decision that allowed both teams to wear their away colors. Wouldn't have surprised me had a pass or two or three been misdirected.
cheersmate Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 The pink was for cancer awareness, support as I understand it. Must admit day glow pink and orange was a bit of a dazzler to watch!
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