RayRay Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 Hello! Long time lurker, first time poster. I'm still relatively new to the game but I've completed the requirements for my QKA and I know enough to know there's still a lot I don't know yet. We've taken over a plan and the plan contact informed a member of our admin team that their prior TPA had warned them of a penalty for the plan failing ADP testing for three consecutive years. I've not come across this in any of my studies so far, and I cannot find anything about it anywhere - not on ERISApedia, not on tag, google, IRS site, nothing. Now, I know that the layperson generally has no idea what we're talking about when we discuss ADP/ACP testing or coverage or anything else, so the likelihood of the client having misunderstood something that the prior TPA said is certainly present. But have any of you ever come across this? If so, could you point me in the right direction? Thanks!
C. B. Zeller Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 No such thing. We have plans that fail every year and take HCE refunds every year. RayRay 1 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
BG5150 Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 Wow! Good thing they now have a new TPA. For poops and giggles, I'd have the client go back to the prior TPA and ask them what the penalty is (and for maybe a cite). Have them say the new TPA doesn't know what they are doing and they want some clarification. RayRay, duckthing and Bill Presson 2 1 QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
KBauer Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 I would recommend clarification on the wording. I have had clients and contacts misinterpret what previous TPAs had meant on take-over cases. Maybe the prior TPA had said there are penalties due for the last 3 years for not making the correction timely after the plan year end for all 3 prior years. rr_sphr 1
Popular Post shERPA Posted May 22, 2019 Popular Post Posted May 22, 2019 Yes. Often when you hear bizarre statements like this, it is the client re-stating what they think they heard from the TPA, not what the TPA actually said. This is not always the fault of the client. It is incumbent on us to constantly strive to communicate clearly with clients. It is difficult, as this is a very technical area where logic doesn't necessarily apply, and our industry jargon does not help. A favorite of mine, how many times has a prospect or advisor told you their HCEs keep getting ADP refunds because the plan is "top heavy"? JackS, Bill Presson, Mr Bagwell and 2 others 5 I carry stuff uphill for others who get all the glory.
RayRay Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 shERPA, unfortunately I have more of a back-office role, so I don't have direct client contact all that often right now. I'm sure the sales team and administrative leads have heard lots of great things like that though!
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