nerd-party-administrator Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Is it okay for one employees deferral to be processed outside of regular payroll (appx. a week after everyone else's)? This was an HCE who decided to max out their deferrals at the beginning of 2020 for the 2019 plan year.
C. B. Zeller Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Generally deferrals have to be withheld from amounts paid during the year. Was the pay and the deferral included in their 2019 W-2? hr for me 1 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
Bill Presson Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 I don't see how someone can legally decide in 2020 to max out deferrals for a prior year. William C. Presson, ERPA, QPA, QKA bill.presson@gmail.com C 205.994.4070
Larry Starr Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 5 hours ago, nerd-party-administrator said: Is it okay for one employees deferral to be processed outside of regular payroll (appx. a week after everyone else's)? This was an HCE who decided to max out their deferrals at the beginning of 2020 for the 2019 plan year. I have difficulty understanding your situation. I think you are asking the wrong question; if you are saying that he wants to defer in 2020 and have it count for 2019, you should already know that is not possible. Has nothing to do with being outside of "regular payroll". If the "irregular" payroll was on 12/31/19 to pay a bonus, he certainly could have deferred from THAT payroll for 2019, but not in 2020. Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC President Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. 46 Daggett Drive West Springfield, MA 01089 413-736-2066 larrystarr@qpc-inc.com
Luke Bailey Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 The HCE would have had to make an election to defer, using any means permissible under the plan (clicks on a website, filling out a paper form, scrawling instructions on a piece of paper, email, or even orally) to a responsible person for the plan by 12/31/2019. If he or she did that, but the company did mot implement, then we can move on to other issues, but if he or she did not do it, there was no deferral for 2019. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
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