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    "Odd" loan repays

    pmacduff
    By pmacduff,

    Plan loan policy calls for a "level amortization" and repays made through payroll deduction.

    Is the plan required to allow a paticipant to pay extra odd amounts (through payroll) if they choose?

    As an example, weekly repays are $88.52 and the participant wants to increase that by $20 and pay $108.52 weekly.

    PA is tracking the loans and not the investment vendor, which means the PA would have to keep track of the "extra" repays and where they apply, presumably principal only.

    thoughts?


    Loss on unqualified Roth Distribution

    Becky Schwing
    By Becky Schwing,

    Participant under age 591/2 and Roth 401k started in 2016.  Wants to take a $13,000 distribution from her Roth 401k account at this time.  Total contributions to the Roth = 21,896.36 and there is currently an overall  loss on the Roth account of $998.15 - i.e. her balance is only $20,898.21.  How does her 1099-R get set up to account for the loss on the Roth money?  I don't see how anything is taxable to her on the $13,000 distribution since she has taken a loss on the account.  Is that correct?


    Required Restatement for Terminated Plan?

    justanotheradmin
    By justanotheradmin,

    What say all of you about terminating plans and the current restatement cycle? 

    Assume the documents have amendments to bring them other wise up to date, just not restatements. I have a couple of different scenarios. Are document restatement required in any/all of the following circumstances. There has been some debate among our actuaries and senior folks. 

    A. Plans that are terminated and completely paid out as of today, but the plan termination date was AFTER the restatement cycle started. 

    B. Plans that are terminated and NOT completely paid out, the plan termination date was AFTER the restatement cycle started. 

    C. Plans that are terminated and completely paid out as of today, the plan termination date was BEFORE the restatement cycle started, but final payouts occurred AFTER the restatement cycle started. 

    D. Plans that terminated AFTER the restatement cycle started, but distributions will be complete BEFORE the restatement deadline. 

    When was the termination amendment? Before or after the restatement cycle started?

    When are distributions complete? During the restatement cycle or after the restatement deadline?


    Participant has W2 + 1099 income; he also 'deferred' from both!

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    They have an employee who (it seems) has discretion as to when to be paid on a W2 and when to be paid on a 1099-Misc.  As we know, 1099 income is not allowed for plan purposes.  Thing is, he has been ‘deferring’ from his 1099 income throughout most of 2018 and continuing into 2019.  (This may have happened in 2017, also)  I believe that the 1099 ‘deferrals’ should be considered a Mistake of Fact and the funds should get sent back to the company.

    In the past, we have only been considering his income and true deferrals from his W2.  Using only that compensation, he is definitely a NHCE.  However, if we consider his roughly $150k in 1099-MISC income, he is way over the threshold.

    So, I’m not sure what to do.  

    (A)    Send the 1099 deferrals back and leave it as it is.  
    (B)    (A) + consider the 1099 income in my testing and make him an HCE (2017 test will probably fail now).
    (C)    Consider both the 1099 income AND deferrals in my test.


    Your thoughts are appreciated.


    ADP Test in Error

    ConnieStorer
    By ConnieStorer,

    We have a client where we review their ADP/ACP tests and prepare the Form 5500.  The client determined that the ADP test failed and they refunded the approximately $1,500 back to one of the HCE's.  The problem is that the client did not perform the tests properly and the Plan did not fail the ADP test.  Thus, there should have been no refund.  

    We now have a situation where deferral money was distributed to a highly compensated participant who was not eligible to receive a distribution.  I am clueless as to how to fix this.

    Any thoughts out there....


    Undoing a termination

    Draper55
    By Draper55,

    Can a plan termination be undone by a simple sponsor resolution? If it's a db plan could it also be unfrozen in the

    same resolution?


    412(e) conversion

    Draper55
    By Draper55,

    (1) how does one convert a 412(e) plan to a non fully insured plan? Can it be accomplished simply by not making premium payments?  (2) if a fully insured plan is frozen for a year can it be resumed or does it lose the level premium requirement by doing so? (3) what are the options for getting the life insurance out of the plan?


    Husband /Wife 5500EZs

    Draper55
    By Draper55,

    Husband and Wife each have their own 401(k). They are a controlled group do to minor child . In completing their Ezs, the participant count should be 2 since the other spouse is eligible to defer but I do not combine the assets since they are separate pools. Correct?


    Can active employee contribute unused vacation time to 403(b)?

    KaJay
    By KaJay,

    An active employee participating in a 403(b)(9) church plan wants to defer his unused vacation time to the Plan.

    I know there is a provision (Rev. Rul. 2009-31) that allows for active employees to have their unused PTO contributed to a 401(k), but I did not find such a provision for 403(b)s. The only thing I could find in respect to unused PTO being contributed to a 403(b) is via a post-severance contribution (Pub. 4482).

    Does anyone know if a 403(b) plan could allow for an active employee to contribute (either via deferral or arrangement with employer for a non-elective contribution) unused vacation and sick pay to the 403(b) Plan?


    Refund of 415 limit due to crediting rule and ABT

    tghooper
    By tghooper,

    We had to reduce an owner's contribution because of the 30-day crediting rule.  The owner is self employed and wants the maximum contribution but will be limited to $41,000 ,including catch up. A refund of $10,000 in elective deferrals was necessary and following EPCRS Rev Proc 2008-50. (per plan doc).  ERISA book says these refunds of elective deferral are disregarded for 402(g) / ADP Test.  The plan is a Safe Harbor 3%. 

    The total contribution of $41K was used for the cross test due to the limit.  Question - should elective deferrals be $18,500 or $10,500 in the cross-test??  I'm inclined to the later but corrective distributions are generally included for ABT.  If the former is used, I'm basically "making up" for the that amount that has will be refunded...doesn't seem correct.  This will have an effect on minimum gateway since we're trying to get to the $41k.  


    Alternate Payee dies before QDRO. Does his estate have a valid recovery claim?

    david rigby
    By david rigby,

    A discussion in the Litigation message board that may also be of interest to readers of this QDRO message board.

    https://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php?/topic/64088-alternate-payee-dies-before-qdro-does-his-estate-have-a-valid-recovery-claim/


    Continue using original plan for new entity

    SSRRS
    By SSRRS,

    Hi,

    I would greatly appreciate insight on this matter. Client had a company "A" (since 09) and a DB PLAN for company A since 2012. In March 2019 he sold "A" --however, corporation is still in existence and its only asset is aprox 10,000 in cash. In April 2019 he set up a new corp "B" (set up a corp and purchased the assets of a business). Company B has new employees and does not do the same service as '"A" corp did.

    1.  Is he allowed to continue the DB Plan of 'A" for company "B'? (so that he has prior service and benifits from "A" and salary average from "A")?

    2. If yes, is the owner the only employee eligible to participate in the plan for 2019 (as he has a year of service from the prior company and is the ONLY employee that will have 1,000 hours for 2019). Thank you very much for any insight on this matter,


    Alternate Payee dies before QDRO. Does his estate have a valid recovery claim?

    TMWIH
    By TMWIH,

    Meeting with ex-W tomorrow.  She is plan participant, age 65, retired.  She and ex-H divorced 10 years ago, both pro se.  Judgment provided for division of her retirement account, but no QDRO was ever drafted.  Husband died recently.  Daughter of couple is designated as beneficiary.    Estate is seeking to recover portion of W's retirement account based upon divorce judgment.  Valid claim?


    Changing EIN on Plan

    Taffy Auditor
    By Taffy Auditor,

    Hi,

    We have a plan we recently became the auditor/5500 preparer for that is a multiemployer H&W plan.  One thing that was noticed in discussion with legal counsel and trustees was that the EIN for the Plan is different than that of the EIN of the Exempt Trust.  It looks like the EIN used is actually the same as what is also used for the Pension and Annuity Plans, but obviously uses a different plan # (in 500's). 

    This 5500 has been filed for many years under this EIN, while the Trust files the 990 under its EIN.  The #'s agree between the 990 and 5500 (that is to say there is no other Trusts under this Plan # for 5500). 

    The Trustees would like to have both the 5500 and 990 EIN match to the exempt Trust EIN (same as 990).  So, we were looking into the best way to handle changing the 5500 filing EIN.  There doesn't appear to be any way to easily just change an EIN for a plan and keep going on with that plan as if nothing else changed.  So, our first thought was we would likely have to file a final 5500 (probably at year-end would make sense) and zero out all net assets and transfer out.  Then on 5/31/19 have an initial 5500 filed under the Trust EIN showing the transfer in of all net assets.  Does this make sense to handle this way or is there a better way to handle this? 

    As usual, the IRS was not very helpful and this is definitely a situation we've never encountered. 

    I know with the final 5500 we'd need to include our audit.   Would we have to include an audit with the initial 5500 as well?  Or not until 2020 year-end?

    Are there other items we need to consider in this whole process? 

    One thing I wanted to verify with Plan Management/Legal counsel is that everything is under the Trust's EIN and not the Plan EIN we are closing out. 

    Any feedback would be appreciated.

    -Taffy


    Limits in Plan Termination

    Gilmore
    By Gilmore,

    Calendar year 401(k) plan terminates 1/24/2019, final distribution 4/5/2019.

    Am I correct that a 50+ year old participant has a 415 limit of $10,666.67?

    Thanks very much.


    Partnership 401(k)

    bzorc
    By bzorc,

    Partnership consists of 5 doctors: One doctor is a 95.96% owner, and the other four doctors own 1.01% each. 3 Doctors are considered Highly Compensated by definition, and the other 2 are not.

    For 2018, all 5 doctors made elective deferrals to a 401(k) Plan. 95.96% doctor owner wants to make the additional $36,500 employer discretionary contribution on his behalf, not realizing that his plan is a New Comparability plan and undoubtedly top-heavy as well (I am not the TPA on this, getting second hand information here). Their current TPA requires "a couple of weeks to perform the "pressure testing" (never heard it called that before)" to see what the employer contribution will be for the company.

    Complicating matters, the accountant filed the Form 1065 without extension; no employer contributions have been made as of today. The question coming for all is if the 2018 Form 1065 is amended to reflect the employer contribution that is necessary, does that give the company the additional time to make the contribution and have it deductible for 2018.

    Thanks for any replies.

     


    after-tax employee contributions

    Santo Gold
    By Santo Gold,

    If an employer wants to allow for after-tax employee contributions, then those contributions are tested in the ACP test.  If the plan operates as a safe harbor match, does that mean that ACP test passes the inclusive of the after-tax employee contributions?

    Thanks


    Safe Harbor Plan with Relaxed Entry for 401k

    CLE401kGuy
    By CLE401kGuy,

    FACTS

    • Plan is top heavy
    • Plan entry has immediate entry for 401k, 1 yr and age 21 for profit sharing source
    • Plan is safe harbor

    Any participant who entered the plan immediately for 401k but did not yet meet the eligibility requirements for profit sharing and is not terminated is subject to receiving top heavy minimum.    Is the top heavy minimum given to these individuals as safe harbor or profit sharing?    Thanks


    next year projected limit already

    Tom Poje
    By Tom Poje,

    CPI-U released today

    254.202, a huge spike from last month (Feb was only 252.776

    At that rate the 415 limit will be 57,000

    and comp limit of 285,000

    the rates used to determine the limits (Jul -Aug) have never been less than the Mar value so  looking like the limits will increase even at this early date


    Plan forfeiture allocated to participants as fee credit

    legort69
    By legort69,

    Sponsor wants to allocate the forfeiture balance as a fee credit to participants with balances. The participants receive a forfeiture "credit" proportional to their account balance, and not necessarily with regard to the actual fees they were charged that year or over multiple years.

    My questions are below. Any input is appreciated.

    1) Does the fee credit have to represent actual fees incurred over time in order to be a valid reimbursement?

    2) Is this a legitimate way to expend the forfeiture?

    3) Should the forfeiture credit be an annual addition?


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