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    Partial Plan Termination

    khn
    By khn,

    A company had a layoff where 30% of their employees were let go in February 2019, so it's a clear partial plan termination and they will be 100% vested. IRS guidance seems to indicate that any other participants who leave the company during the same plan year, even voluntarily, would also become 100% vested. Is that correct?

    "An affected employee in a partial termination is generally anyone who left employment for any reason during the plan year in which the partial termination occurred and who still has an account balance under the plan."


    Boys and Girls Club

    cpc0506
    By cpc0506,

    We are working through our list of clients that need the PPA restatement for their current documents.

    I have come across a plan for a Boys and Girls Club.  I know that 'nonprofit recreational clubs' are tax exempt but cannot sponsor a 403b plan.  Would a Boys and Girls Club fall under this definition of 'nonprofit recreational clubs'? 

    Does anyone reading this blog have Boys and Girls Club as a client who have a 403b plan?  Or is it enough that the Form 990 reflects the company as a 501(c)(3) organization?

    Thanks for any guidance you can provide.


    Asset Sale

    Chippy
    By Chippy,

    A current physician practice bought another practice in an asset sale.   the Assets of the benefits plans were not included in the sale.     May the new employer bring the employees of that plan into their plan immediately and count service with the prior employer for eligibility and vesting?    Is a plan amendment needed?   thank you


    5305-SEP to 401k plan in same yr; ps start date 1/1?

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Sole Proprietor has set up 5305-SEP and wants to set up a 401k plan for current calendar year and only contribute to 401k plan.

    No contributions yet for current calendar year. He will notify recordkeeper that he will terminate the 5305-SEP (seems that is how to terminate such a SEP?)

    Question: Can the PS feature of the 401k plan be effective 1/1 of the same year, which is prior to the 5305-SEP being terminated? 


    We use Sharefile. Any other options?

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    We use Sharefile and I suppose it is OK, but it is too complicated for a lot of our clients and I presume there must be a better option out there.  I'm curious if anyone uses a different system. Sharefile is integrated with Outlook so we can easily encrypt our attachments, AND our clients can upload files directly to our own personal in box.

    But the password thing is clunky, clients always forget their passwords, etc. Anythng better out there?


    Anon VCP

    Griswold
    By Griswold,

    Has anyone done an Anonymous VCP submission through pay.gov yet? I'm wondering how to handle the payment. They only take ACH and credit cards. Doesn't seem very anonymous.


    Successor Plan Issue

    ERISA-Bubs
    By ERISA-Bubs,

    There are two entities -- A and B -- in a controlled group together.  Each have their own 401(k).  We want to eliminate B's plan at the end of the year, but over the course of the next few months, we are going to have a bunch of B employees moving over to A and they will be immediately eligible for A's plan.  So, we are going to violate the 2% rule under the successor plan rule because at least 2% of the participants in the B plan will have participated in the A plan in the 12 months leading up to terminating the B plan.

    Is there a way we can spin off the accounts in the B plan of the people we expect to transfer to the A plan?  That way we'd have B1 holding those accounts and B2 holding the other accounts.  At the end of the year, we can terminate B2 without any successor plan issues, and merge B1 into the A plan.  Any thoughts or issues?


    415 ISSUE for Plan Terminations

    Sixpack
    By Sixpack,

    A client has a DB plan, started in 1998. The plan was subject to a Hard Freeze in 2016, and a new pension plan was established.  The frozen plan is DB001, the new plan DB002.   Both plans are overfunded with significant excess assets. DB001 accrued benefit is $12,000/mo, DB002 $1,500/mo.

    Both plans terminated in 2018, participant is now 70. The aggregate 415 limit is $14,166.67/month ( C limit) and the aggregate 415 LS (both plans) is $1,799,000. Note the accrued benefits in both plans is $13,500 < 415 limit. The question is how do I apply the 415 limit to each plan? The plan doc says to apply the 415 limit first to DB001. The problem comes from the MPV which impacts the 415 limit even though the total accrued benefits as annuities do not exceed 415. The PVAB ( MPV) is $1,700,00 in DB001 and $225,000 in DB002.

    It seems that DB001 pays the full PVAB  and  DB002 get the knife. This doesn't seem right. Is there another approach?


    How early may an employer distribute the SIMPLE notice for the next year?

    Beltane
    By Beltane,

    The notice is due by November 1st - is there a limit to how early it can be distributed?  Thanks in advance!


    IRS Request for 2016 945

    Gilmore
    By Gilmore,

    Is anyone else receiving CP259 Notices from the IRS asking for a 945 form for 2016?

    I received copies of the notices from two completely unrelated clients, both of which have plans on a recordkeeping platform in which distributions are processed under the recordkeeper's EIN. 

    Since we have a small number clients I thought this might not be just a coincidence.

    Thanks.


    controlled groups revisited

    pmacduff
    By pmacduff,

    Two companies (A & B) with idential ownership:

    owner #1 = 25%; owner #2 = 25%; owner #3 = 25%, owner #4 = 8%; owner #5 = 8%; owner #6 = 4% and owner #7 = 4%.

    I've had a brain freeze...where the CG rules state "the same 5 or fewer", it doesn't matter if there are more than 5, just that 5 or fewer own 80% or more, correct?

     

     


    Retiring - Are ESOP shares undervalued?

    I need help
    By I need help,

    There will be a significant number of retirees from the company our company in the next year. The company has a significant amount of Cash on the balance sheet that might not all be included in the valuation. The Company and trustee are unwilling to let anyone else review the valuation report. Is there anyway to dispute the valuation on the basis it is too low? The ESOP owns over 70% of the company, but the CEO and CFO seem to be hiding the cash until after the current round of retirements.


    Current Solo K - New Plan Next Year

    sdix401k
    By sdix401k,

     I have a new client who has a solo k. They will have a number of new employees in 2020. We want to set up a new plan for the company plan 002. ( Client want's to keep current plan, but will make all contributions for owner and employees to new plan )

    I am thinking that this will be fine but I need o freeze solo k, Solo K has 100% vesting - new plan would not. Are there any BRF issues if solo l is frozen?

    I realize I will still need to aggregate for Top Heavy. Any one see any issues here? What it be an issue of the solo k was not frozen?


    Definition of Participant for purpose of distributing the SAR

    Pammie57
    By Pammie57,

    I am never sure who this is....participants with account balances (both active and non-active), beneficiaries receiving benefits under the plan -

    but does it include ALL employees who have met eligibility but have no account balance?  


    Land purchase with 401k assets

    Pixie
    By Pixie,

    I have a client that wants to purchase land with his 401k assets and have a non-related party develop it.   It is my understanding that real estate held by a 401k plan can only be a passive investment and that this deal would not meet the requirements.  Do you agree?


    RMD for former owner

    perplexedbypensions
    By perplexedbypensions,

    Hello all!

    Participant turned 70 1/2 on 9/1/2019.  In 2018, he was an over 5% owner, but sold his ownership in June 2019, prior to turning 70 1/2.  He is still working.

    I have looked in the ERISA Outline book, and it seems pretty clear that he would not have to take an RMD since he was not a 5% owner upon attainment of age 70 1/2.

    BUT!!!!!

    His son (with whom he formerly shared ownership) is now the sole owner. 

    Is this 70 1/2  participant still considered an over 5% owner due to family attribution, and therefore would need to start taking his RMD's?  I cannot see this answered clearly in the EOB's.

    Thank you to all for the help!


    modified cash accounting method

    B21
    By B21,

    Can anyone provide any citation or guidance regarding the definition of modified cash accounting for Form 5500 reporting purposes. It was my understanding that this method reports all activity on a cash basis with the exception of employer/employee contributions & distributions which are accrued. However, I've seen audit reports completed stating the Form 5500 was prepared on a modified cash method & that contribution receivables are not required to be reported.


    Uncashed Checks Following Plan Termination

    EBECatty
    By EBECatty,

    Would uncashed checks still be considered assets of the plan if they remained uncashed into a new plan year?

    For example, 401(k) plan terminates on September 15, 2018. All checks are written and other distributions made by September 14, 2019. Someone doesn't cash their check until January 2020. 

    Does the plan need a 2020 5500 and audit?

    Does the uncashed check mean all assets are not out of the plan within 12 months and the original termination date of September 14, 2018, is no longer valid?


    Correction of Ineligible After Tax rollover to 403b plan

    Cobras59
    By Cobras59,

    It was discovered in 2019 that a rollover received in 2017 from an outside plan into a 403b plan included after tax contributions.  The Plan that received the rollover specifically says in the document and SPD that it does accept after-tax dollars as rollovers into the Plan.  Can the current Plan distribute the ineligible after tax money to the participant, with earnings, and do 1099R for the current calendar year?  Or does the plan try and send the ineligible after tax funds back to the original plan and ask them to correct the 2017 1099R?  What about the earnings?  Are they taxed in the year distributed, or 2019? 

    Could the participant do an In Plan Roth Rollover or Transfer in the current Plan?  


    Summary Plan Description Delivery Requirements

    Brigid
    By Brigid,

    The IRS says the SPD has to be delivered within 90 days after the Participant enters the Plan. If the participant is given the SPD prior to becoming eligible for the Plan, does that satisfy delivery requirements? 


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