C. B. Zeller
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Will name change of 1 letter trigger warning or error?
C. B. Zeller replied to BG5150's topic in Form 5500
What's the harm in answering line 4? Why wouldn't you do it? -
Is RMD required?
C. B. Zeller replied to Santo Gold's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
There is no question in my mind that there is a termination of employment that would cause an RMD to apply. But even if that weren't the case, you can't have it both ways. Either it is the same employer, in which case there is no RMD but successor rules apply, or it is not the same employer in which case there is an RMD and no successor issue. -
Is the claim here that a plan is not subject to the vesting standards of ERISA as long as all contributions under the plan are 100% vested? Isn't that a little like saying that I'm not subject to laws against murder because I've never killed anyone?
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Is RMD required?
C. B. Zeller replied to Santo Gold's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
From what you described, I take it this was an asset sale? If it was a stock sale, then the new employer would have issues maintaining their existing 401(k) plan after the termination of the old employer's plan due to the successor plan rule. Since it's an asset sale, the employee had a termination of employment with the old employer, and consequently must take and RMD from the old employer's plan for the 2021 calendar year. If she rolls over the rest of her balance into the new employer's plan, she will not need another RMD until she terminates employment with the new employer. -
Plan year end is last Friday of December - no 5500 on 2021 form
C. B. Zeller replied to Trisports's topic in Form 5500
Interesting. I looked it up as you suggested and sure enough the rules are found in IRC 441(f). I do feel like I'm on another planet even reading this as this definition of a plan year is totally alien to me. I wonder if the language in a preapproved document might limit a sponsor's ability to do this. If the plan document says "12 consecutive months" I don't know that you get to interpret that as 52 or 53 weeks just because you want to. You might need an IDP to use that definition in a plan. -
Plan year end is last Friday of December - no 5500 on 2021 form
C. B. Zeller replied to Trisports's topic in Form 5500
I think you have a short plan year 12/25/2020-12/31/2020, and then a plan year 1/1/2021-12/31/2021. Check your plan document's definition of plan year, it probably says it is the 12 consecutive month period ending on the last day of the plan year (and if it doesn't, does it have a determination letter?). You can't have a plan year that is longer than 12 months, so you have to add a short plan year to make up the difference. My suggestion would be to amend the plan out of this insane definition of plan year and onto a normal 12/31 plan year ASAP. -
Any benefit, right or feature that is available only to NHCEs is automatically nondiscriminatory. Besides the ACP test (which would only be helped by the additional contributions for NHCEs) I can't think of any other issues.
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Discretionary Match formula different for participating employer
C. B. Zeller replied to AmyETPA's topic in 401(k) Plans
I agree. You are on the right track with "disproportional amount of NHCEs;" more specifically, you have to pass the effective availability test with respect to the 3% match. Essentially the group of employees to whom the 3% match is available has to satisfy the 410(b) ratio percentage test. -
Yes, you can recharacterize deferrals as catch-up due to an excess of the 415 limit. Check the plan document, hopefully it says that even with the pro rata allocation, you can limit contributions to the participant's 415 limit. Assuming that it does, then you should be fine. If not, allocate as much as you can under the current formula and do the rest with an -11(g) amendment. Either way I would recommend changing the formula to individual groups going forward.
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Availability of loans is a benefit, right or feature subject to nondiscriminatory availability. If participants are not aware of the loan provisions in the plan, then it can not be effectively available to them. ERISA sec 102 only says that a SPD "shall be sufficiently accurate and comprehensive to reasonably apprise such participants and beneficiaries of their rights and obligations under the plan." While it doesn't specifically say that a loan program has to be included, I would think a "sufficiently comprehensive" document should include it. Have you asked Relius about the difference in their 401(k) and 403(b) documents? What did they say?
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RMD - 402f notice not needed?
C. B. Zeller replied to AlbanyConsultant's topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs
402(f) notice is required to be provided for any eligible rollover distribution. RMD is not an eligible rollover distribution; therefore, no notice. The content of the notice describes how you can roll over your distribution and continue to defer taxation on it. With an RMD you do not have the option to roll it over, so providing the notice would actually be misleading to the participant. -
Otherwise Excludable Employees and ADP Testing
C. B. Zeller replied to EBECatty's topic in 401(k) Plans
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They have to purchase an annuity for this participant. I am not aware of anything they could do to force the participant to take a lump sum. If the participant was never an HCE, could they offer this person a subsidized lump sum? That might encourage them to take the lump sum distribution if it is significantly larger than the present value of the annuity. This company has sponsored a number of industry events - they might be able to help you. I have not personally used their services. https://www.dietrichannuity.com/
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Otherwise Excludable Employees and ADP Testing
C. B. Zeller replied to EBECatty's topic in 401(k) Plans
If they had terminated employment prior to their statutory entry date, they would be part of the otherwise excludable group. Once they satisfy statutory eligibility they become part of the "regular" testing group. It comes down to the method you are using to test coverage. Since you would normally be testing coverage using the annual method, you test on the last day of the year and include all employees who were not excludable during the year. This person in question met the plan's minimum age and service conditions, so therefore they are treated as non-excludable in the coverage test. When disaggregating otherwise excludable employees, you disaggregate employees who met the minimum age and service conditions under the plan, but not the maximum age and service conditions of 410(a). Since this person had satisfied the maximum age and service conditions of 410(a) during the year, they cannot be part of the disaggregated plan. ADP testing follows coverage testing, so the people you disaggregated as otherwise excludables for coverage are your otherwise excludables for ADP. -
If she turned 70½ in 2019, then her required beginning date was 4/1/2020. RMDs due 4/1/2020 and 12/31/2020 were waived by the CARES Act, so her next (first) RMD is due 12/31/2021.
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The first question you're going to have to find out, then, is whether you can get the recordkeeper to issue a corrected 2020 1099-R. It may be difficult or impossible depending on their systems. If the participant was a qualified individual, and the default occurred after the effective date of the CARES Act, then you could probably say that the final payment was deferred for 1 year. It would have to be increased with interest, of course. Notice 2020-50 said that the scheduled repayments had to begin in January 2021, but since there were no scheduled payments in 2021 I think you can make an argument that she would get a full year suspension from the original final payment date. If she was not a qualified individual, and she is past the 5-year limit from the original loan date, then she is out of luck. However if she is still within the 5-year period, then the plan may be able to correct the defaulted loan under SCP by having her repay the amount with interest.
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Different Eligibility Requirements for 401(k) Contributions
C. B. Zeller replied to Stash026's topic in 401(k) Plans
Coverage test is always needed. It might automatically pass if there are no nonexcludable HCEs (or NHCEs, for that matter) but that is a different story. Assuming semi-annual entry dates: Senior manager A and regular slob B are both hired on 8/1/2020. A makes $30k/month, so $150k in 2020. B makes less. A is HCE for 2021 and B is not. A's entry date is 7/1/2021 and B's is 1/1/2022. If they were the only employees then the plan has a coverage failure for 2021 since the HCE is a participant but the NHCE is not. Contrived example aside, you have to test using the 6 month eligibility for everyone every year, even if you don't actually hire any senior managers that particular year. The otherwise excludable rule is available, and it may help you pass testing, or it may not. -
Different Eligibility Requirements for 401(k) Contributions
C. B. Zeller replied to Stash026's topic in 401(k) Plans
It's allowable as long as it passes the coverage test. You have to test coverage using the most permissive age and service conditions, so any employees who are not senior managers, who have completed 6 months of service, would have to be treated as non-excludable in the test. -
I don't see why not. Amend the plan to name B as the plan sponsor, and revoke A's participation in the plan all at once. I would make it clear in the amendment that prior service with A is included for all purposes.
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Once the money is withheld from your paycheck, it becomes an asset of the plan. Since your employer did not promptly deposit those contributions into the plan, they have likely engaged in a prohibited transaction under ERISA. As Lou S. mentioned, the correction for this error is for them to make up the amounts with earnings and deposit it to the plan. If your former employer is not responsive, you could get the Department of Labor involved, as they are the government agency with jurisdiction over participant rights in retirement plans. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ebsa/about-ebsa/ask-a-question/ask-ebsa
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IRC 404(a)(6)
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Sale of participating employer and vesting
C. B. Zeller replied to Steamboat's topic in 401(k) Plans
Are you sure? Just because the number of affected employees is less than 20% does not make it not a partial plan termination. It's always a facts and circumstances determination. An employer-initiated mass termination is usually indicative of a partial plan termination. -
Testing for combo plans - fiscal year
C. B. Zeller replied to Jakyasar's topic in Retirement Plans in General
No. Even though 402(g) is on a calendar year basis, 401(a)(30) is on a plan year basis. They can do two catch-up limits in the first plan year, though. -
can I disaggregate ADP test and aggregate ACP test
C. B. Zeller replied to Scott25's topic in 401(k) Plans
What kind of disaggregation are we talking about? Otherwise excludable employees? I'm going to say yes, your testing elections for ADP and ACP would typically be independent of each other. There might be some cases where one would depend on the other, like if you have QMACs you are counting in the ADP test or shifting deferrals to the ACP test; I would have to look up the details of those rules to be sure.
