Basically Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 For a September 30 FYE plan, when calculating the RMD can/do you use the 9/30 balance or do you need to determine the 12/31 balance and calculate the distribution based on that year end balance? Thanks
BG5150 Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 Is this a pooled plan, or individual accounts? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Basically Posted November 17, 2021 Author Posted November 17, 2021 Pooled... which is why I am asking and which is why I have in the past just used the 9/30 year end balance. If they were segregated brokerage accounts using 12/31 would have been easy.
Peter Gulia Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 If the plan has only yearly valuations each September 30, isn't a December 31 balance the same as the preceding September 30 balance? Luke Bailey 1 Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
BG5150 Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 Unless the plan has quarterly valuations, I would go with the 9/30 balance. QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
C. B. Zeller Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 The rule is that you use the balance on the last valuation date in the calendar year immediately preceding the distribution calendar year, with adjustments. For the 2021 distribution calendar year, you would use the account balance as of the 9/30/2020 valuation date. Increase it by the amount of any contributions allocated to the participant's account, or decrease it by the amount of any distributions made from the participant's account between 10/1/2020 and 12/31/2020. Lou S., ugueth, jsample and 1 other 4 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
chc93 Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 As C.B. says, this gets you a "pseudo 12/31/2020" account balance that the regulations allow.
Basically Posted November 18, 2021 Author Posted November 18, 2021 Ahh... yes. Thank you C.B., that is what I was looking for. RMDs are part of the basic operation of a plan... something that must be done. I sometimes second guess my knowledge. Appreciate the help.
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