pmacduff Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Have a client with seasonal layoffs this time of year. A participant wants to request a loan but is currently on lay off. Since the loan policy requires repayments be made through payroll deduction, is the Sponsor ok with denying this loan until the participant returns to work? With the nature of this business, the client should address this is in the plan loan policy but at this time has the stock loan policy from the Plan Doc, which does not specifically address this situation.
C. B. Zeller Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Is it possible that the participant would be considered to be on a leave of absence which would allow them to suspend repayments under 1.72(p)-1 Q&A-9 (assuming such suspension is permitted by the plan)? ugueth and CuseFan 2 Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
CuseFan Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 What happens when someone with an existing loan incurs a seasonal layoff? Like CBZ asked, are they considered on leave with repayments suspended? Or does the plan allow direct off-payroll repayments from the participant? Absent any specific plan/loan program documentation otherwise, I would likely treat similarly. But, ultimately, the Plan Administrator has the authority/obligation to reasonably interpret the plan. C. B. Zeller 1 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
BenefitJack Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 My suggestion is to consider amending the plan to allow for repayment via electronic banking. Payroll deduction is so 20th Century. Electronic banking is less costly, less of a hassle for the plan sponsor, payments never need to stop, payments can coincide with the paycheck deposit, and not only can individuals continue loan payments during a leave of absence or layoff, they can also initiate a plan loan - even post-separation. This has considerable value to those whose employment is dislocated prior to age 55. You would want anyone who takes a loan to shoulder 100% of the costs of loan administration.
QDROphile Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 May I suggest “automatic payment arrangement satisfactory to the Administrator”?
BG5150 Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Wouldn't that feature have to be supported by the record keeper? Do houses like Hancock or Voya or Empower support it? QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Peter Gulia Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Recordkeepers’ proposals I’ve evaluated have included offers to process banks’ electronic payments, at least when the loan obligor is no longer employed or otherwise has no wages from which a wage-deduction payment could be taken. But consider that a service provider’s desires and capabilities might vary with a particular plan’s circumstances. Even within one recordkeeper, not every plan gets the same offer of services. Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
QDROphile Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Consider the requirement to have an expectation of repayment before issuing the loan. When payment is by payroll deduction, there is a high level of confidence. If the loan request is on the eve of layoff, maybe not so much. Peter Gulia 1
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