EPCRSGuru Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 Has anyone yet come up with a creative solution to the problem of obtaining spousal consent for a distribution when a) our offices are shut down for the foreseeable future and b) participants and spouses are reluctant to leave their homes to see a Notary? Zoom-witnessed signatures with identification, for example?
Peter Gulia Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 Whether a plan’s administrator relies on or refuses a qualified election, spouse’s consent, and notarial act is in the administrator’s discretion. About whether someone tries creative means to do a notarial act: National S. 3533 A bill to authorize and establish minimum standards for electronic and remote notarizations that occur in or affect interstate commerce, to require any Federal court located in a State to recognize notarizations performed by a notary public commissioned by another State when the notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce, and to require any State to recognize notarizations performed by a notary public commissioned by another State when the notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce or when the notarization was performed under or relates to a public act, record, or judicial proceeding of the State in which the notary public was commissioned. As of 03/25/2020 text has not been received for S. 3533. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3533/text This idea is not in the pending coronavirus bill. States Executive orders: Connecticut https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/Office-of-the-Governor/Executive-Orders/Lamont-Executive-Orders/Executive-Order-No-7K.pdf New York https://www.governor.ny.gov/sites/governor.ny.gov/files/atoms/files/EO%20202.7.pdf No one knows whether anyone would rely on such a notarial act. Proposed legislation: New Jersey https://ils-content.s3.amazonaws.com/COVID-19/NJ+bill+for+remote+notary.pdf Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
justanotheradmin Posted March 26, 2020 Posted March 26, 2020 This may be helpful - https://www.notarize.com/blog/washington-adopts-remote-online-notarization There are several states that already recognize and have remote notary rules. I'm a stranger on the internet. Nothing I write is tax or legal advice. I'd like a witty saying here, but I don't have any. When in doubt, what does the plan document say?
C. B. Zeller Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Since the earlier post, the NJ bill has now been signed into law. https://www.archerlaw.com/covid-19-legal-digest-covid-19-and-notarizing-documents-covid-19-and-hippa/ Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
MoJo Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Another resource: https://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/insights/publications/2020/03/coronavirus-federal-and-state-governments-work-quickly-to-enable-remote-online-notarization/ There is still the "in the physical presence" issue...
Peter Gulia Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Tomorrow’s Federal Register will publish an interim rule in which the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board waives a requirement. But it does nothing for another plan. Some notaries will officiate if the notary can see and hear the signer, handle documents safely, and use sensible ways to guard against a forgery or alteration. Nat’l Notary Ass’n, Important Coronavirus Guidance For Signing Agents And Mobile Notaries, https://www.nationalnotary.org/notary-bulletin/blog/2020/03/notaries-precautions-coronavirus Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
RatherBeGolfing Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 5:33 PM, Peter Gulia said: Tomorrow’s Federal Register will publish an interim rule in which the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board waives a requirement. But it does nothing for another plan. Some notaries will officiate if the notary can see and hear the signer, handle documents safely, and use sensible ways to guard against a forgery or alteration. Nat’l Notary Ass’n, Important Coronavirus Guidance For Signing Agents And Mobile Notaries, https://www.nationalnotary.org/notary-bulletin/blog/2020/03/notaries-precautions-coronavirus Late to the party, but Florida law recognizes online notaries as of 1/1/2020. To do it, you need to be a currently active notary public, complete and receive certification for a new online education training, and register as an online notary public. https://dos.myflorida.com/sunbiz/other-services/notaries/remote-online-notary-public/
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