The company I just started with has PTO purchase via 125 plan, the deductions was set up to  hit GL as  CR to PR Liability. When or how is the Liability cleared?  Plan states all time has to be taken or lost.

What should happen when the employee uses the purchased Time off?

Seems to me we will have to do a manual entry to DR the Liability account and CR Wages, to correct the balance sheet.

Currently,When the employee takes any PTO, this is paid out to them as vacation time , or wages in effect and taxed as such.

I  need to confirm I am understanding  the DR and CR of this transaction. 

Where is the benefit , other than extra week off, with pay, they in effect purchased from the employer.

They have never reconciled the balance sheet , I am attempting to do that for EOY 2018 and this one item has me confused.

Thank you to anyone that will reply and explain this in clear T accounts 

Pauline

Say a 5% owner is well past 70.5 and starts a plan effective 1-1-19. Vesting is excluded prior to 1-1-19 and NRA is 65+5. 3-year cliff vesting is used, so the owner will first have vested benefits in 2021.

Is the initial RMD date 4-1-2022 or 12-31-2021?

There are several threads on this topic, but they give different answers, and some are more focused on the benefit amount instead of the starting date. One area of confusion appears to be that people get DC rules mixed up with DB rules. For example, in a DB plan, if an RMD starts at 4-1 with an annual payment, the second RMD is NOT due at 12-31 of that same year. The second RMD is payable at 4-1 each year. 

I think a second area of confusion is that I'm not sure the IRS gives a clear answer.

I can see an argument made for 4-1-22 or 12-31-21. How do others approach this? Thanks.

Is there any website or links that will explain the termination procedure that one needs to follow when the plan is part of a controlled group.  Basically can a plan that is part of a controlled group can it Terminate?

My client is contemplating leaving a multiemployer Fund.  We have two withdrawal liability estimates, one from a few years ago and one very recent.  The recent one is almost triple the one from a few years ago.

We have been told that the Fund changed their withdrawal liability calculation rules, removing a cap on how they calculate unfunded vested benefits.  This rule change caused the huge increase.

This seems suspicious to me that my client could have left the Fund a few years ago for a fraction of the cost based on unilateral action by the Fund.  Is the Fund allowed to make this change?  Should the Fund have provided advance notice before making this change?  Are there any other defenses my client has against this huge increase in withdrawal liability based simply on the Fund changing how the liability is calculated?

Some individual-account (defined-contribution) retirement plans allow a participant a choice of taking a retirement benefit in periodic payments.  Others provide a benefit is paid only as a single sum.  Some reason that limiting payout options doesn’t harm participants because whatever one might choose in an employment-based plan’s payout options can be accomplished with an Individual Retirement Account or Annuity [IRA].)

A recent Pensions & Investments article describes an Alight Solutions survey, which finds 57% allow periodic payments and 43% don’t.

I haven’t read Alight’s report, but I guess the sample is larger plans.  I wonder whether smaller plans have a different mix on allowing or precluding periodic payments.

So informal survey:

Do your clients’ plans allow periodic payments?

About whether to allow or preclude payments, do most clients follow your suggestion?

Is it possible to use a definition of compensation that passes 414(s) testing when the plan's design is using a safe harbor enhanced match per pay?

My fact set is the plan was designed to exclude pay in excess of $125,000.   Since this is a 403b plan, the safe harbor design is used to pass the 401(m) test.  The formula is 100% on 4% salary deferred with comp for employees capped at $125,000.  Since the only employees impacted by the cap are HCEs, the 414(s) testing passes.

But now I am wondering and am getting conflicting answers with some research I am doing that even allows a Safe Harbor plan to exclude any forms of pay even if the exclusions passes 414(s) testing.

I will take any help and feedback.  Thank you.

Brigid

I'm confused by the recently proposed excepted benefit HRA that would allow an HRA to reimburse dental/vision premiums and other ACA exempt benefits if eligible employees are also offered group health plan coverage. 

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/10/29/2018-23183/health-reimbursement-arrangements-and-other-account-based-group-health-plans

I thought current rules already allow for a limited scope HRA that reimburses dental/vision expenses only (including premiums) as long as they are not an "integral part of a group health plan" or they are provided "under a separate policy, certificate, or contract of insurance" (such as an individual dental/vision policy)? What am I missing?

Treas. Reg. §54.9831-1(c)(3)(i); DOL Reg. §2590.732(c)(3)(i). (special rules relating to group health plans)

See Amendments to Excepted Benefits, 26 CFR Part 54, 29 CFR Part 2590, 45 CFR Part 146, 79 Fed. Reg. 59130, 59132 (Oct. 1, 2014)

Treas. Reg. §54.9831-1(c)(3)(ii)

DOL Reg. §2590.732(c)(3)(ii)

HHS Reg. §146.145(b)(3)(ii).

The IRS User Fee Schedule (Appendix A, IRB 2018-1) does not show the user fee for an application to waive minimum funding and the Rev Proc refers back to 2004-15 which refers back to 2004-8, which shows user fees of $2,290 (waiver <$1M) and $5,415 (waiver =>$1M). It doesn't look like any of these rules have been updated.

Are these still the fees or am I missing something?

Thanks

In thinking about a standard non-qualified SERP plan for a tax-exempt organization (a nonaccount balance plan), would the remuneration under Notice 2019-09 be the same as for FICA purposes?  In general, it seems they would be the same.  Thanks in advance!

If husband at age 70.5 elected a 100% J&S annuity and passed away can the surviving spouse now take a lump sum that is equivalent to her receiving a monthly annuity (ie lump sum of the 7,500 monthly that she is supposed to receive)Thank you very much.

When is a participant permitted to resume his/her 401k deferral contributions following his/her 2018 Hardship distribution 6 month suspension period?  Is it immediately, or, must he/she wait until the Plan's next permitted "change", e.g. if Plan permits Quarterly changes, must he/she wait until the 1st of the next quarter following expiration of the suspension period?

Plan provides 6 mo suspension

Plan is SH401k

Plan provides the Participant must complete a new election following the 6 mo suspension bc the election is deemed to be zero at the point of Hardship distribution.

Generally speaking Participants may commence or change their deferral elections Quarterly (jan 1, apr 1, jul 1, oct 1).

Thank you!

Non-profit organization has two full-time employees in management positions, neither of which is highly compensated. 

They also have nurses who are on-call and will receive $2-$4 per hour for being on-call.  Each nurse is on-call 24 hours per week, which means a nurse would have 1,000+ in a year just for on-call time.

A nurse may be called in on a case, and would be paid regular hourly compensation (at a nurse's regular pay rate) for those hours.

The question is whether a 401(k) plan can exclude the on-call time and pay for eligibility, participation and contribution calculations.

Thanks!

We have a realtor who is an LLC and files as a sub-S. Spouse is an attorney, PA with 5 employees, Would the realtor LLC be able to qualify as a SLOB and adopt a defined benefit plan?

I don't think it is but wanted to make sure, as I couldn't find a thread on this.  Company A, which sponsors a 401k plan, is owned 80% by Joe and 20% by Mike - only Joe is employed by A.  Mike also owns 100% of company B, and although both companies frequently work together for a common client, they would not be considered ASG members as they are in the construction biz., and therefore, not service orgs.  Would an ASG situation exist if Mike were to become an employee of A without anything else changing?   

How long must a TPA of NQDC plans retain records for a terminated client? Is 7 years the norm? Can it be a shorter time period? What are general guidelines typically followed by other TPA firms for records retention related to NQDC plans and terminated clients?

Here is an interesting situation: The IRS , during an audit of a 401(k) Plan, has informed the plan sponsor that they were using the incorrect definition of compensation in withholding from eligible employees. They are requesting that the sponsor go back to 2002 to make the appropriate corrections. Here are the two questions that have arisen:

The plan sponsor no longer has the payroll records back to 2002, but does have the compliance testing from their TPA (who is no longer in existence). They are wondering if they can use the compensation information from these tests in order to perform the calculation, informing the IRS that this is all they have and it's their best estimate as to the amounts due. The plan sponsor is doing the corrections on their own.

Second, during this whole thing, the plan sponsor went bankrupt in 2001, and emerged from bankruptcy in 2005. They are wondering if they could be responsible for the corrections during a period of time where they were bankrupt.

If anybody has thoughts on this, I would be interested in hearing them. Thanks.

Plan sponsor is getting push back from new TPA about having the plan added as an additional insured to TPA's E&O Policy. According to TPA, the insurance broker does not permit the plan to be added as an additional insured.

Any thoughts on whether this is common practice?

My understanding is that when cross-testing, any nonhighly compensated employee must receive the minimum gateway when he/she receives any employer provided benefit or non-elective contribution.

Suppose a company sponsors a cash balance plan and a 401(k) plan which are cross-tested together.  If an NHCE receives no employer contribution in the 401(k) plan (last day requirement) but does get a CB plan pay credit that equates to a 2.5% allocation rate, must he be provided the additional contribution to bring him to the (in this case) minimum  gateway of 7.5% ?

Thanks.

Hi to all,

We have a client who has not provided sufficient data to enable us to produce an annual report or a 5500 since 2014.  Please don't go into the fact that we should have fired the client long ago.  There are extenuating circumstances.

The bottom line is that they have seen the light and have begun to provide data.  We are now in a position to provide them with a 5500 to file for 2015 and 2016. Since they are not under examination at this time, we can use the DFVCP program.  From their instructions it would appear that we are supposed to file all delinquent years at one time.  However, we are nowhere near being ready with 2017's form and may not be for several months.

What are your thoughts on waiting a few months and doing them all at one time versus filing what we do have and doing another submission later on?  What if they do get a letter saying they are under examination in the interim while we are waiting to get the 2017 form done?  

Your ideas are appreciated, as always.

Hello,

A plan sponsor has DB and DC plan.  Eligible compensation for deduction limit is $500K.

25%=125K, 6%=30K.

DC ER contribution is 40K, in order to pass 401a4 (over 6%).

DB MRC is 200K as of the valuation date.  I am confused what the deposit amount and the deductible amount are.  My understanding is...

Deposit amount - 240K (DC 40K, DB 200K), Deductible amount = 230K because the DC amount over 6% cannot be deducted??  If the DB deposit is made after the Val Date, would the deductible amount increase accordingly?

Am I close or totally off.....  Is there a way that a sponsor can deduct full 240K, if the increased DC contribution is due to the failed 401a4 test (I think I read this in one of the posts......but not sure how it works with the actual deduction amount).

Thank you in advance.