BG5150 Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 For the “evicted from principal residence” category, would an uninhabitable house qualify? I have a participant whose septic system needs repairs. Without a septic system, the house will be considered uninhabitable and they will have to move out (albeit temporarily). QKA, QPA, CPC, ERPATwo wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
justanotheradmin Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 no, I would say this would be similar to a burst pipe. The bank isn't evicting or foreclosing because of the septic issues. I'm a stranger on the internet. Nothing I write is tax or legal advice. I'd like a witty saying here, but I don't have any. When in doubt, what does the plan document say?
Bri Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 Are they evicting themselves? Their landlord certainly could do it, but otherwise I'm with justanotheradmin on this one.
Peter Gulia Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 But what about “[e]xpenses for the repair of damage to the employee’s principal residence that would qualify for the casualty deduction under section 165 (determined without regard to section 165(h)(5) and whether the loss exceeds 10% of adjusted gross income)[?]” 26 C.F.R. § 1.401(k)-1(d)(3)(ii)(B)(6) https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-26/part-1/section-1.401(k)-1#p-1.401(k)-1(d)(3)(ii)(B)(6). Peter Gulia PC Fiduciary Guidance Counsel Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 215-732-1552 Peter@FiduciaryGuidanceCounsel.com
C. B. Zeller Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 If the failure arose from a casualty, such as a storm, earthquake, etc., then I agree they would qualify. If the system failed due to normal wear and tear it would not be a casualty loss. Free advice is worth what you paid for it. Do not rely on the information provided in this post for any purpose, including (but not limited to): tax planning, compliance with ERISA or the IRC, investing or other forms of fortune-telling, bird identification, relationship advice, or spiritual guidance. Corey B. Zeller, MSEA, CPC, QPA, QKA Preferred Pension Planning Corp.corey@pppc.co
fmsinc Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 The jokes write themselves. See https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-hardship-distributions Do you need to notify and/or have the consent of the spouse or former spouse? Be careful. A pending divorce can get you caught in a lawsuit. Repeat these word - Fiduciary duty to all participants and beneficiaries. What is a failed septic system anyway? It usually happens slowly. You don't wake up one day and it's failed. The people who clean the septic system periodically can tell you if it's failing. I'm not sure this passes the smell test. Yes - I been there and done that. What verification do you have that the septic system has failed. They can usually get it fixed temporarily before the do major repairs just by having it pumped out. I smell a rat. David
Gilmore Posted September 26, 2024 Posted September 26, 2024 Does a $1000 personal emergency distribution help? Never had to repair a septic system, so $1000 may be a drop in the bucket, no pun intended. Gina Alsdorf 1
Gina Alsdorf Posted September 30, 2024 Posted September 30, 2024 If you want to step out of the safe harbors (and likely amend your plan), I think it may qualify... Due to an immediate and heavy financial need. Limited to the amount necessary to satisfy that financial need
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