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    Nondiscrimination Testing for Two Identical Plans of the Employer

    oldman63
    By oldman63,

    To avoid audit requirement for plan, employer is splitting the plan into two separate plans.  Plan provisions will be exactly the same.  Since the plans have provisions that are identical, can nondiscrimination testing be performed as if they are a single plan?


    401k Catch-up Contributions

    JerT
    By JerT,

    Hi,

    I'm older than 50 and have never made a catch-up contribution to my 401k. Can I make one every year from now on? To make the catch-up, can I simply keep contributing to the 401k weekly as I do now until I reach $25,000?


    TPA or Sponsor (client) to respond to employee requests

    SSRRS
    By SSRRS,

    Hi,

    If a plan participant (active, or terminated employee) requests information regarding a qualified DC Plan that a company sponsors.1 Who is required to provide the information, the TPA or the plan sponsor/administrator (ie the client)? 2. Is the TPA prohibited from providing any information since the TPA is not the sponsor/administrator?  Thank you.


    "Employee Elective Deferral Failure" under RP 2019-19

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    Really splitting hairs here, but...

    When looking at Appendix A, .05(9) and (10), let's suppose that everyone has been having deferrals withheld correctly, and all of a sudden, for ONE payroll, everyone who is deferring doesn't have anything withheld on a small piece of irregular (but not excluded) compensation.

    If corrected immediately, does this qualify for the "no QNEC" correction? (Assume no match anyway)

    While it seems reasonable, I suppose one could interpret the language in (10) that this isn't a "failure to implement" - in other words, it seems like that might be designed more for an INITIAL "failure to implement."

    Has anyone seen/heard of the IRS addressing this issue?


    operational compliance versus controlled group testing?

    Draper55
    By Draper55,

    Suppose we have three members of a controlled group cos X,Y and Z. All three have a standardized prototype profit sharing plan; the adoption agreement states that all employers participate in the plan . Each plan has a different allocation formula, one is prorata, the other fixed and the third integrated. Can each employer X,Y and Z allocate a discretionary amount  to just its employees based on its plan's allocation formula and then general test all the employees together for coverage and nondiscrimination?


    Distributable event triggered due to warehouse closure?

    PINO
    By PINO,

    One of our locations just closed due to business decision and employees were being let go.

    Does this trigger as distributable event for the terminated employees who participated into the plan? Do they eligible to receive 100% of the vested employee contributions even though they did not meet the yearly requirement (20% for serviced after 2 years...... and 100% after 6 years)?

    Thanks


    Added SHM to plan mid-year. Oops

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    Have an existing 401(k) Plan that someone (not me!) added a SH match to effective 4/1.  Obviously this is not allowed.

    What is the remedy?

    Send a "Sorry that you got that SH notice, but you really didn't need to..."?

    Amend the doc to not have the SH features.

    Good thing is, there was already a stated match in the plan which was the same as the SHM.

    Testing should not be  a problem.


    Contributions in Multiple Plans

    Stash026
    By Stash026,

    Here's my situation:

    • Company 1 - Husband & Wife owns 100%
    • Company 2 - Husband owns 50%, Another Individual owns 50%

    So we don't have a controlled group.  The Husband maxed out his 401(k) in Company 2 and they pass all testing, but can he get Profit Sharing from both plans and what would the maximum be for each?   

    Thanks in advance!  


    Fidelity Bond Increases

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    I recently wrote this memo regarding reporting a fidelity bond increase that took place in 2019 as of 12/31/2018.  I'm less concerned with whether it is what you would do, and more concerned with whether or not it fits within the gray zone of opinion.  Before I started writing the memo I was unsure, but as I completed it, I became convinced that not only was it ok, it was likely a preferred approach as a matter of providing valuable information to the reader.  Anyway let me know what you think,

    The 5500 asks "during the plan year" did the Plan have a fidelity bond. We answered yes to that question because during the plan year there is a bond. The instructions are not specific regarding what bond amount must be reported (i.e. as of which date). For example, they could have said "enter the bond amount as of the beginning of the year” or “… as of the end of the year", etc. but they make no reference.  In fact they provide no guidance on how to report a bond that uses the ERISA Inflation protection (if anything required explanation as to applicable dates it would be this).  Based on this lack of guidance we are in a position where reasonable alternatives must be considered.  One other reasonable approach would be to allow the Employer to report the bond in effect as of the date of the filing of the 5500.  If a reader of a 5500 has more recent information regarding the value of the fidelity bond he or she will better be able to determine the level of protection the Plan has acquired.


    Deferrals erroneously withheld from bonuses, not remitted to plan

    cheersmate
    By cheersmate,

    How do you correct the following error?

    401k Plan permits special elections for "irregular pay" and absent making an affirmative election, nothing should be withheld. 

    Dec 2017 a small amount of deferrals were withheld from "Christmas" bonuses for some but not all employees. These deferrals however were never remitted over to the Plan as the employer never realized they were in fact withheld. This was just found with year end reconciliations and 5500 prep (off calendar fiscal/plan year).

    How best is this corrected? If remitted over to the plan they violate plan operation because they were not elected, should not have been withheld from payroll. Since withheld on a pretax basis, no income taxes were withheld on these amounts nor were the amounts reported as taxable income however social security taxes were withheld and amounts reported. Given all of this, is it best to remit them over to the plan along with corrective earnings and then do an amendment for those specifically affected for the specific paydate? Adjust via payroll somehow?

    Thank you!


    Welfare Plan 5500 - Schedule A - mid yr broker buyout

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Group Insurance broker was bought by another firm mid-year. So two different brokerages received commissions, even though the Employer did not formally change brokers.

    On insurance carriers' Schedule A provided information letters, they either indicate one or the other for the whole year (ie if their system is not updated, they list the prior firm name, if updated the new name) with the grand total for the whole year.

    To what extent is it necessary to break out what amounts were paid to which firm, even though it's the same broker group?


    T Rowe Price 401k plan

    csanch11
    By csanch11,

    I'm in the process of enrolling in a 401k with trowprice. I'm a bit confused in this enrollment stage (screenshot below). There's the Roth 401k and the Pretax selection. My assumption is that the Pretax is the traditional 401k account? If so, why do they give you the choice of opening both traditional and Roth 401K accounts? 

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    Plan buy-back of ESOP shares

    Dennis G.
    By Dennis G.,

    I administer an ESOP plan that only holds Employer Shares.  When a participant terminates the participant sells his shares to the plan in exchange for cash.  The "cash" paid is a cash contribution to the plan and in turn paid out to the terminated participant.  The shares "sold" to the plan are allocated to the remaining participants eligible to receive a contribution to the plan for the year.

    However, because of diversification the value of the shares sold this year exceeds the 415 limit for contribution allocation. 

    What can be done? Does the value of the shares in excess of the 415 limit belong to the Employer Sponsor outside the plan?


    QDRO approved, funds disbursed Aug 2018

    Jacksmom
    By Jacksmom,

    State of Oregon, parties are now dealing with the reality that they did not withdraw enough from 401K plan to pay off all bills and also pay IRS.  Husband now wants to renegotiate the pension settlement and wife just wants the bills paid off. Can they renegotiate the 401k settlement and file an amended or new QDRO? Is it allowed to go back ? They had done a 50/50 split before but failed to account for the tax consequences of not rolling over into another retirement plan. Plus the bills turned out to be more that they thought after paying lawyers :(

     


    Late contributions to 401k. Use DOL calculator for all contribution types?

    Francis
    By Francis,

    Employer was 20 days late with employee deferrals, matching, and non-elective QACA contributions. Prior to this error they have always submitted the three money types together to participant accounts every pay period.

    For the missed contributions do they need to use the VFCP lost earnings calculator for all three money types or just for the employee deferrals?   


    Auto-Enrollment

    jpod
    By jpod,

    Anyone see any concerns with this structure:

    New hires eligible to participate voluntarily after 90 days of employment.  Auto-enrollment kicks in after 12 months of employment for those who as of that date have not voluntarily enrolled.  

     


    Early Participation Rule AKA OEE

    thepensionmaven
    By thepensionmaven,

    We have a combo cash balance/401k safe harbor nonelective profit sharing plan.   The DC plan has the failsafe language.  Eligibility both plans,  age 21/1, 000 hrs.   One HCE,  5 NHCE.   One younger NHCE terminated in 2017 so the contributions needed to pass substantially increase contribution as well as benefits.  All that is needed pass 401(a4)  is one more younger NHCE.   Does it matter which one,  assuming there are two? BTW,  (a) (26)  as well as (b) (10) are both passed. 

     

     


    No Profit Sharing - do I file a 5500

    PainPA
    By PainPA,

    New p/s plan adopted in November 2018 and the 401k was going to start 1/1/2019. They decided not to make a profit share contribution for 2018.  So no assets for 2018 at all. 

    Do I still file a 5500 with 0.00 for 2018 ?


    1300 Hours for PS Contribution

    susieQ
    By susieQ,

    I'm preparing GUST, EGTRRA and PPA restatements for an employer who is under IRS audit.  The employer has been applying a 1300 hours requirement for a participant to receive the annual profit sharing contribution.  Obviously, that is not an option in the non-standardized document I am using.  The employer has asked me for a citation as to when 1,000 became the maximum number of hours permitted. 

    Is it an IRS rule? Part of ERISA? I haven't been able to find something in writing to give to the employer.  I don't think it will be sufficient to say the document doesn't permit it.  

    Thank you.


    Contribution Rules When Have More than one participating employer

    arthurkagan
    By arthurkagan,

    Two dentists (husband and wife) have separate corporations.     Their corporations are both participating in  the same 401k plan, which has a safe harbor matching provision.  The husband and wife both make the maximum 401k contributions to the plan from their separate payrolls.    The wife's corporation contributes the safe harbor matching contribution to the plan for her, as well as the safe harbor contribution for the husband.   Is this OK, and does the wife's corporation get a tax deduction for both safe harbor contributions.

    In general, in a plan with multiple participating employers, can one entity contribute for another entity's participants.

     


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