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    414 Compensation testing

    PFranckowiak
    By PFranckowiak,

    401(k) Plan  I don't do this enough and am second guessing myself

    A. excludes Safe Harbor Exclusions,  fringe benefits, expenses, deferred compensation and welfare benefits.

    B.  Also excludes bonuses.

    C.  Employees covered under 125 plan and get paid cash if they don't select benefits. 

     

    1.  For the compensation test to I take Item A. from gross compensation for the denominator or just use total gross? 

    2.  For the numerator do I use the denominator -B?

    3.  Also if It doesn't pass and the match is just 15% of the deferral, I assume that the only consequence is using a 415 compensation for testing purposes. 

     


    Matching Contribution Adjustment

    mjf06241972
    By mjf06241972,

    is there a rule for matching contribution adjustments at the end of the year?  Meaning if a client is off by 2 cents so they still have to deposit this amount? Thank you.


    Prevailing Wage and 401k

    mjf06241972
    By mjf06241972,

    1.  Does a client have to set up a retirement plan (with 5500 filing) when starting Prevailing Wage Job?

    2.  Is there anyway around this?

    3.  Can a Simple 401k Plan have Prevailing Wage?  I dont think so but trying to think out of the box instead of setting up a plan with Prevailing Wage requiring 5500.

    They are trying to avoid admin cost of a Prevailing Wage Plan.

    Thank you.


    Is the penalty $110 or $112 a day?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    A summary plan description's ERISA-rights notice states: “ In such a case, the court may require the Plan administrator to provide the [documents requested] and pay you up to $110 a day until . . . .’’

    Has the amount referred to been adjusted?

    If so, is it $112 or some other amount?

     


    Partial Plan Termination and liquidation allowed?

    JennFC
    By JennFC,

    Client has a deferred compensation plan with employee elective deferrals and employer nonelective contributions that they are looking to terminate for various reasons, but they also want to adopt a new long-term incentive plan that would be aggregated with the employer nonelective contributions under the plan aggregation rules in 1.409A-1(c)(2).  Can they terminate and liquidate the employee elective deferral portion without terminating and liquidating the employer nonelective contribution portion? 

    If these were two separate plans they could clearly terminate just the one, I'm just not sure that would work since they are in one plan document.  Thoughts??


    Missed Loan Payments

    MGOAdmin
    By MGOAdmin,

    New client has outstanding loans with missed payments. Some loans have not been paid on at all going back a year.

    I was going to give the following options to the client for correcting. Please let me know if there are any issues with these:

    1. Catch up loans for all missed payments including interest and start loan payments on next payroll.

    2. Re-amortize loans, with new start date but same end date as original loan so it is still paid off within 5 years of the loan origin. If this is allowed, the interest rate of the original plan was higher than the current so I would re-amortize using the current (lower) interest rate.

    3. Have participants take out a second loan for the missed payments, and contribute the money back to the plan and start both loans on next payroll. (assuming the plan allows for 2 loans and the second loan does not exceed the limit based on their balance or $50k)

    4. Have 59.5 employees take in-service distribution (trued up for taxes) for missed loan payments, and contribute the money back to the plan.

    Note: none of these loans are for HCEs.

     

     


    Plan at 415 limit but slightly overfunded

    Hojo
    By Hojo,

    Just a quick question about a plan that is slightly overfunded, by about $200,000.  Owner only sole prop.

    Could the sponsor leave the plan active, roll their current 415 limit benefit from the plan and the leave the excess assets in the plan.  Then invest the remaining $200,000 in a money market account so not to gain interest.  In 3 years when their new 415 limit is $200,000 more, take the excess?

    I know there's a lot more to it, but trying to keep it as simple as possible.


    Partial Correction of ADP Test

    nancy
    By nancy,

    A plan fails the ADP test for 2018 and refunds are made by March 15, 2019.  It is later discovered that there was an error in the test and additional refunds need to be processed.  Is the excise tax due on the full refunds or only those made after March 15?


    RMD rollout of plan prior to termination and RBD

    Tom
    By Tom,

    Hypothetical: Non-5% owner is age 75 and rolls 100% of balance to IRA in May 2019.  Terminates employment in August 2019.  It seems there may be an RMD requirement.   But if he had not terminated employment there would be none.

    Another example: Non-5% owner 70 years old retires in April 2019.  He will turn 70 1/2 in November 2019.  He requests 100% rollover in July.  I don't believe there is any question - he must take RMD and rollover the balance in July even thoguh not yet 70 1/2.  

     


    early retirement - rehired - waiver of future accruals permissible

    dixieandruby
    By dixieandruby,

    Tax-qualified defined benefit plan offers early retirement distributions (age 55-64).  NRA is age 65.  Plan provides that if participant terminates and commences early retirement distribution, if upon reemployment before age 65, participant desires to continue receiving distributions, participant must waive (in writing) opportunity to earn future accruals on service earned between reemployment and eventual final retirement, in which case his initial distributions continue unchanged with no additional accruals or further adjustment to his payments.  Is this participant waiver of additional benefit accrual in exchange for continuance of pension distributions (during reemployment) permissible?  If the person does not waive the additional accruals, his pension benefit is "suspended" during the reemployment period and then resumes at eventual retirement, adjusted to reflect additional accruals earned during reemployment along with any required actuarial adjustments.

    Many thanks.


    Ex entitled but won't sign QDRO

    lizz
    By lizz,

    I have been divorced for 6 years.  As part of our divorce settlement which was filed with the courts as part of our divorce paperwork, my ex is entitled to more than $100,000 from my teaching pension.  In Pennsylvania, it is a state funded pension and can be taken out as lump sum (which I would have to do) or as a monthly benefit. 

    Our mediator had a QDRO drafted by an independent company that specializes in drafting QDRO's  for PA teachers.  My ex refused to sign saying that it was not the correct amount and has refused to since.  The mediator does not know how this will impact the QDRO.  The pension system thinks he will be entitled to it, but hasn't faced this before.

    Help please.  Retirement is two years away...


    Investment direction as an allocation condition

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    An individual-account retirement plan allows § 401(k) contributions, provides matching contributions, and allows (but does not mandate) a non-elective contribution.

     

    The plan provides that an election to make an elective deferral (whether non-Roth or Roth) that does not include a proper investment direction is invalid.

     

    But if a participant never made elective deferrals, she might not have made an investment direction.

     

    Rather than set a default investment, the plan’s sponsor would prefer to provide that a proper investment direction is a condition for a participant to share in a non-elective contribution.

     

    This would not be an exercise of a fiduciary’s discretion; rather, the plan’s sponsor would express the provision in the plan’s governing document.

     

    In this employer’s circumstances, excluding a few people from a non-elective contribution would not result in a failure under Internal Revenue Code § 410(b) or § 401(a)(4).

     

    Is there some other tax-qualification condition a plan might not meet because of this provision?

     

    Is there an ERISA mandate a plan might not meet because of this provision?


    choosing which assets to distribute to HCE

    M Norton
    By M Norton,

    SH 401(k) has assets held in pooled account from inception (1997) - no participant direction.

    Plan sponsor has decided to move assets to American Funds platform and allow participant direction beginning 2020.

    Some assets in the plan will not transfer to the AF platform and must be liquidated or distributed.  They include a Certificate of Deposit and some corporate bonds.

    Two of the three owners are over age 70 1/2 and must take RMDs.  Can they choose which assets are distributed for the RMDs?  And if the plan allows inservice distributions for participants who are NRA (65) or older, can those participants (the HCEs) select which assets can be distributed/rolled over to IRA (after satisfying RMD requirement)?  

    There is concern that allowing HCEs to "cherry-pick" assets for distribution might be discriminatory, even though they would be distributed at current market value and there would seem to be no harm to the NHCEs.  (There are no NHCEs who are NRA or older.)

    Thanks for any advice with this!


    ROBS Exit Strategy

    Seattle260
    By Seattle260,

    This might have been asked before but I wasn't able to find this exact question-

     

    If I use a ROBS and open up a corporation with $300k, so lets say then my 401K plan gets 300K shares @ $1 each.
     
    Fast forward 5 years and now my corporation is worth $600k, so my 401k plan now has 300K shares @ $2 each for a total value of $600k.
     
    How do I exit the robs in this scenario? Do I have to pay $600k (assuming the valuation is comes in at that number or close to it)?  
     
    I'm fairly certain I won't have $600K sitting around.
     
    Thanks

    Question for those with CPC Designation

    Madison71
    By Madison71,

    I am contemplating whether to first get the TGPC designation or work towards my CPC designation (I have completed the pre-requisites).  I see there is a governmental and tax-exempt module in CPC, but not sure how comprehensive it is.  I work on private, governmental and tax-exempt plans.  I have more experience on the private sector side and would like to gain more expertise on the public sector side. I would rather begin the CPC and take the governmental module unless that module is not very comprehensive.  Thoughts?

    Thank you!


    Minimum distribution timing for surviving spouse

    pensiongeek
    By pensiongeek,

    We have a plan that has a participant who died in 2019 after attaining age 70.5.  Had he survived, his first RMD would have been due by 4/1/2020.  His spouse is his sole beneficiary.  Section 1.401(a)(9)-3 allows her to delay commencing benefits until 2020, however she is electing a distribution now.  Does a distribution now trigger an RMD requirement for 2019?


    Seeking Retroactive Reinstatement of VEBA's Exemption; IRS Penalties if Reinstatement Limited from Date of Submission?

    rocknrolls2
    By rocknrolls2,

    A client with a VEBA had its exemption automatically revoked for failure to file 990s for three consecutive years. Seeking retroactive reinstatement of the exemption. According to Rev. Proc. 2014-11, the IRS will not assess failure to file penalties against the organization if IRS grants the organization's request for retroactive reinstatement. What if the IRS does not accept the argument raised in the reasonable cause statement, in which case reinstatement would not become effective until the date the reinstatement submission was mailed? Would the IRS assess failure to file penalties for the period between the revocation date and the mailing date of the reinstatement filing? Did anyone have this happen in a real-live situation with respect to a client where the IRS rejected the reasonable cause statement and assessed failure to file penalties for the period that the VEBA remained non-exempt?


    match formula based on compensation bandwidths

    WCC
    By WCC,

    Plan sponsor wants to provide a greater match formula for lower paid participants. For example:

      1. Tier 1 – if you make < $45,000 your match is 100% on 5%
      2. Tier 2 – if you make > $45,000 < $75,000 your match is 75% on 5%
      3. Tier 3 – if you make > $75,000 < $125,000 your match is 50% on 5%
      4. Tier 4 – if you are a HCE your match is 25% on 5%

    Let's assume the match is based on plan year comp (not funded per pay period) so at the end of the year you know which category each participant is in. If the plan passes BRF for both current availability and effective availability, then is this acceptable (pending ACP testing)?

    Is this type of match formula possible within the regulations? If so, we obviously need to make sure our document allows for it. Our document allows for us to write in tiers, but I am not sure that tier section means compensation bandwidths.

    Thank you


    Form 1099-R not filed for deemed loan

    DDB  BN
    By DDB BN,

    We took over a plan that had brokerage accounts, each participant had an individual brokerage account for deferral and SHM contributions and there was a pooled account for PS contributions.  The participant loans were taken out of the participant's balance in the pooled ps account and the repayments were also made to the pooled account.  We have since transitioned the plan to the John Hancock recordkeeper platform.  Off calendar year plan end is 02/28.  It has been brought to our attention that 2 participants with loans terminated, one in 2017 and the other in 2018.  The deemed loans had not been removed from plan assets on the 5500 filings, should we amend prior year returns or report on the filing for 02/28/19 year end?  Since the 1099-R was never prepared for these terminated participants (one has not been paid out yet and the other has received a partial distribution and will receive the remainder of her balance in the next week.), how should we proceed regarding the non-issue of the 1099-R for the appropriate years?


    Concerns w/ Financial Advisor Handling SIMPLE IRA

    EDB
    By EDB,

    Hello.  I need some guidance.  A few years ago (2016), I was hired to manage a company with a SIMPLE IRA. They'd been using the same financial advisor/group to manage the SIMPLE since it was established many years prior.  Since I knew nothing about this type of IRA, I did a bunch of research.  What I found was concerning, though I wasn't confident I fully understood the IRS guidelines.  I spoke with the advisor and he didn't seem able/willing to give me a straight answer, but never told me different when I told him I thought we were doing things incorrectly.  All seemed ok until this year.

    We're setup with a 1 year, $5k, 3% match.  The company/advisor was not offering enrollment to all eligible employees - only those hitting the $5k threshold AND classified as fulltime.  The company was requiring a full calendar year of employment before being eligible and then allowing enrollment starting the following Jan 1 (I started March 2016 was told I wasn't eligible until Jan 2018 because I had to be employed for a full year first. Based on what I'd read it was my understanding that I was eligible to start Jan 1, 2017 - which I did).  The advisor was not distributing the annual notice/election information prior to the Nov 1 deadline.

    Hopefully I was correct, as I made all of those changes noted above (length of service doesn't matter, just $5k earned in any one previous calendar year to be eligible for start date Jan 1, notices are given out prior to Nov 1 with a 60 day election period for Jan 1 plan start, parttime employees meeting the $5k are eligible, etc.).  I usually have the advisor come out in mid November to meet with each employee to go over their options, answer questions, etc. That gives them time to decide what they want to do, make the election/change and I can be ready for changes come Jan 1.  This year the advisor notified me he is switching all SIMPLE meetings to January.  Is that ok?  Obviously, he can meet with people in January, but don't I want them making their elections/changes during Nov/Dec?  Plus the fact that I then won't have elections/changes until after the start of Jan 1 could mean the initial 2020 contributions could be wrong and make more work for me.

    I admit, I don't know SIMPLE IRAs.  However, I don't really feel confident that our financial guy does either.  If my gut is right, I'm ready to find someone else to help us with this.  I realize SIMPLEs are somewhat flexible just because the rules/penalties are pretty loose, but if there are rules, I wan to follow them!  I really appreciate anyone's feedback (even if you tell me that I am the one that's wrong here). Thanks!

    Erika


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